CoarsegoldKid Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 You can always make them taller. Link to comment
Ponch Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 You can always make them taller. But the bars can't be raised, so it causes a more forward tilt. Link to comment
lkraus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 You can always make them taller. But the bars can't be raised, so it causes a more forward tilt. I'll go out on a very stout limb and predict that somebody will provide some method to raise the bars. I'll also predict that the method will be quite expensive. Link to comment
CoarsegoldKid Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The info that I received today while chatting it up with the "greeter" at the local BMW shop may be flawed. Time will tell. I know he wouldn't tell me tales. He plans to order a "short". My understanding is BMW has two chassis' for the RT and GS models. The short chassis is a special order. About an inch delta. And there are low and standard seats available. The back story is one of the design mucky mucks from the BMW car division is now in the MC division and he's 5'8" tall. So perhaps you inseam challenged now have a advocate in your corner. That will make a lot of folks happy. Link to comment
Ponch Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 You can always make them taller. But the bars can't be raised, so it causes a more forward tilt. I'll go out on a very stout limb and predict that somebody will provide some method to raise the bars. I'll also predict that the method will be quite expensive. I'm sure someone will too, eventually and it will be expensive. I think Heli has something for the K1600 and it's $700+ and might require longer brake lines too. Seems BMW tried to make the bike more suitable for those at the shorter end of the spectrum. It could be that's where most of the complaints came from. Link to comment
tallman Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Complaints? When selling the beemers at least 2 per week from inseam challenged, smaller frame, ladies, seniors wanting flat footedness. 10,000 specific complaints, or more, in a decade, that did not end up a sale, at a small dealership. Yeah, BMW knows and has for a long time... Link to comment
Francis Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I sat on the bike at the NY motorcycle show and my 34in inseam had no trouble with the fit of the bike in this static configuraiton. I found the stock seat much more comfortable than the stock seat on my previous 1150RT. The relationship between bars, foot pegs and seat seemed fine for my size (6'2"). Smaller riders with shorter legs and arms might need more adjustments...or I might need adjustments once riding the bike. Fit and finish seemed very high quality and I can hardly wait for a test ride. Link to comment
Moto-maineiac Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 MAX indicated they thought they'd have their first demo bikes in March. Yes, my cold weather gear is laid out and ready for a ride. Now if it would only get above 25 f'n degrees outside. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 What's the thought on BMW doing an RT-sport version in the near future similar to the GT-sport released this year? Pat Link to comment
AndyS Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Well, based on their history, I personally would put money on it as a certainty! I just can't wait to read some road tests and get my hands on a demo version or the RT. This has been so long awaited. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yeah, I think they'd do very well with an S version RT. You know, for the old guy that hasn't quite accepted the fact that he's an old guy. Me! Pat Link to comment
lowflyer2000 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 What are the "rumours" as to when the various Bike mags will start testing the RT? I remember they tested the 1600 series somewhere in South Africa??? I've already placed my order (October 2013) and apparently will take delivery sometime in march? Link to comment
kltk165 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't recall ever seeing, or hearing of an RT "sport" version in the past but there was always a sportier version of the platform until recently. As BMW came out with the K16GT Sport I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with an RT sport instead of another model like the old RS/ST. Just my two cents. Link to comment
tallman Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 From the early oilhead years up to the ;end of the RS line, sales broke down 2 to 1 RT vs RS so obviously a lot of folks liked the RS/RSL. BUT, when the RS ended and ST started BMW missed the boat for a lot of previous RS owners (like me) and ratio of sales skewed toward RT. I think BMW created a self fulfilling prophecy and don't look for them to change back. Sport version RT? Take the bags off... Link to comment
ShooterSteve Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 My understanding after speaking with a few salesman, is that the re-designed RT and GS chassis are all lower by about an inch and offer adjustable seats and optional tall or short seats too, so us short people can also be comfortable. I sat on a new GS and my feet were flat on the floor with the low seat. Amazing. I guess BMW finally got the message. Now we can have ESA and a low seat. Smart move. I can't wait to test ride one. Link to comment
Guest Kakugo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Related: the water cooled version of the R1200R has been spied in the wild. Apparently it has a traditional fork (as seen on the R90T) to make room for a single large radiator mounted high in the frame instead of the two radiators of the RT and GS. This should allow to keep the bike narrow and perhaps shave off a little weight. It may also signal the bike will be competitively priced (by BMW standards ) though I am curious to see if it will have something akin to ESA at the front. Perhaps a system similar to the one used on the HP4 sportsbike? Link to comment
bdfbeemer Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Dealer in NC just said GSA and RTs should be in last of Jan. first of Feb. Link to comment
Yammer Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wahoooooo Finally got to sit on one at the bike show this weekend. I have one on order based on the specs, pics, and video. Glad to report feels better than my 08 RT. Seems the seat leather is a bit softer and I liked the seat. Fit me great in the legs like my last one too. It looks better in person than the pics that's for sure. Don't like how the Nav V can be popped off easily so you can't lock it in the mount and have to remove it when you still at a pub. Clutch feels light, and the throttle has no slack and is a light twist. Wish the ole paddles were there for signal lights. The low profile fluid reservoirs look good. The fairing is definitely a new design...looks great and sportier. Looked at all the direct competitors including the Trophy, which is probably the closest competitor.... And I'm definitely happy with my choice for another RT! Nothing comes close. Can't wait for it to get here.... Snows melting fast.... Link to comment
roadscholar Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's funny how they use that weird camouflage paint job to try to hide the contours of the bike... while drawing about 10x the attention it might normally receive. Disruptive "zebra" painting... let's wait until our military members chime in. Being a history buff they look very much like a WWI destroyer. Mercedes seems to have caught on this, however, as two prototype cars I have spotted in recent years were both matte black and with large vinyl strips masking some features. http://www.lemans-tv.com/ Link to comment
SAAB93driver Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 An RS version with fewer gadgets, smaller fairing, lower bars but same luggage package sounds like a winner to me but I won't hold my breath. Link to comment
Skywagon Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Well pulled the trigger today on a loaded 14RT....Stipulation is subject to seeing and test ride. All the information about the first bikes coming out loaded is true. The only thing the dealer and I couldn't find on the bike was Trunk. Negotiated on the trunk and 600 service...Should be here next month. Money down...now just wait... Link to comment
ghan Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If you're considering the new RTW you might like this to wet the appetite Link deleted by Admin due to possible virus Link to comment
Skywagon Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Virus Alert on the link you sent..picked up by Norton... Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Congrats, what color are you leaning towards? Pat Link to comment
Ponch Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I saw it today. It looks better in person. They did a nice job on it. Would I buy one? Not now. I can see the values of the hex/camheads dropping a lot though. I bet a lot of people will be trading up. Link to comment
Skywagon Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Ebony Metallic...already have a blue RT so was looking for change.... Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If you're considering the new RTW you might like this to wet the appetite Link deleted by Admin due to possible virus Delete if need be but, If this was the link it worked fine for me. Hey, me thinks ya just need to catch the drool before it hits the keyboard is all. Exciting times! Pat Link to comment
ghan Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Excuse me, I thought the Zidovudine had cleared the virus. Link to comment
Ponch Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If you're considering the new RTW you might like this to wet the appetite Link deleted by Admin due to possible virus Delete if need be but, If this was the link it worked fine for me. Hey, me thinks ya just need to catch the drool before it hits the keyboard is all. Exciting times! Pat Do you use a Mac? Worked fine for me too. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yeah, should of said worked fine on an IPad. Go over to a neighbors house or something, and click that link. It's so worth it! Haven't clicked on it using a PC. Pat Link to comment
Corvallis Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It is also amazing how effectively the zebra striping obscures details. Link to comment
ShooterSteve Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 With riding videos already showing up, why haven't there been any ride reports yet? I'd love to see a good comparison between the 2013 and 2014 RT. It seems strange they are sending them to dealers for sale before the press gets to ride them. Link to comment
bdfbeemer Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 So who is going to translate? Link to comment
RiKe Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 video from Switzerland: videos from Nerherland: http://www.testmotor.nl/2014/test-2014-bmw-r1200rt Link to comment
lkraus Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Apparently the British and Americans were not invited to Spain. Or they are very slow at reporting their impressions. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 English. http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-2014-bmw-r1200rt-review/24387.html Pat Link to comment
Guest Kakugo Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Got an email for my friendly BMW dealer telling me they'll have both new LC bikes (RT and GSA) available for demo rides starting this Saturday. Given the weather we are expected to have in the next week or so I don't know how many will take the invitation up. For myself I'll attempt to negotiate a longer demo ride at a much later date, at least to take the new RT around the local twisties. Link to comment
lkraus Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 English. http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-2014-bmw-r1200rt-review/24387.html Pat That writer seems unimpressed with the handling, size and complexity of the RT. Maybe we should send him a pack of Kool Aid.. Link to comment
AndyS Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hi Larry. I didn't read it that way. I think he was mightily impressed. His criticism was how BMW make the options so complicated. He did criticize the hill start, but from his description, it seemed more like he had issues...not the bike. He says it prevents the bike rolling backwards, well, yes it should. He also says it needs more 'gas', well, again, yes it should. If the gradient is such that it shouldn't need more throttle, then you probably wouldn't bother engaging the 'assist' feature. So far, all glowing, from my point of view. Link to comment
ShooterSteve Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Seems like he felt the bike was too large and imposing. I always thought the RT was very reasonable in size compared with others like the 1600GT etc. I agree that although he complimented it's ride and handling, it seemed like he really didn't like it all that much. I always thought the RT with it's short wheelbase was supposed to be great in the corners but that's not what he seemed to think. Link to comment
Yammer Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 MCN first ride review is out in this weeks edition and its a good read. They give it a glowing review. Pulls away from any of the competitors that were getting close and leaves them in the dust. Hate when guys say it isn't sporty...I was pulling away from GSXR's on the Isle of man TT mountain run on a 2012 rental....with a top box on it...felt guilty doing it LOL. My 08 had rub marks on both cylinder heads from leaning in the corners....I suspect the extra bark of the new putt putt ...in the right hands... could be impressive. Neat thing is in the mountains can go crazy...then on the way home...cruise in excellant comfort. Dang I wish the bike was here and the snow was gone.....sigh.... Link to comment
lowflyer2000 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Where can one find MCN article / vid etc???? Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 They touch on all three new bikes, full reviews in the mail. Pat Link to comment
Nomore76 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 My buddy in New Jersey is supposedly picking his up today. My dealer called and mine should be here in California within a few weeks. We were both told that the first shipments to the States all come fully loaded. That is OK with me! Link to comment
Skywagon Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just got back from the dealer...Mine is due here on Wednesday... Link to comment
Yammer Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I get my copy via google newstand. Link to comment
Roadwolf Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Well, I saw it in person at Touring Sport today... their first two were sold and picked up today... It is awesome... I liked the bike from the pictures, but in person, words fail me as to how much I love the looks of this bike. One of the new owners let me sit on it and it fits like a glove. Considerably lighter than my GT. If I wasn't so in love with the inline 6, I would be getting one of these. BMW has a hit on it's hands... they will sell every one they make... Link to comment
ADulay Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just got back from the dealer...Mine is due here on Wednesday... Got a call from my dealer last night and "my" bike is in New Jersey, evidently watching the Super Bowl and should be here by Saturday. AD Link to comment
bdfbeemer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Mine got here Friday. Pick it up Wednesday. Changed tires and added hyperlights to rear. Link to comment
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