APDDave Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I had been having touble lately with when I go to get gas in the bike, I can hardly pry the lid open. There is a heavy vacum built up inside the tank and it wont let it open. Took the bike to the shop and they told me that the charcoal canister was completly clogged. Sould I replace it, or someone suggested to just bypass it? Link to comment
dirtrider Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Morning David Only you can answer that question. That Evap Canister is a great emission reducer as it traps unburnt hydrocarbons then later releases them to be burned in the engine and sent through the catalytic converter. If you are concerned with keeping the factory emission controls intact then maybe find another Evap can on E-Bay or post a wanted in the want adds here. On the other hand it isn’t working now so simply removing it and venting the gas tank directly to atmosphere won’t add any more emissions to the planet. A lot of riders have removed that Evap can and direct vented their gas tanks so you wouldn’t be the first or the last to do so. That also means there are plenty of take-offs floating around if you desire to go that route. In any case you need to do something as that vacuum in the tank can ruin your fuel gauge sender and cause you other issues. So until you make you mind up at least disconnect your plugged Evap can so at least the tank vent properly. Link to comment
GordonB Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 At least disconnect the hoses to the canister to prevent vacuum build up. If you choose to replace, follow the hose that goes from the can across the seat to the left side and to a solenoid valve. That valve is most likely clogged with bits of charcoal as well. On the other side of the valve there's a hose that goes to the left TB. disconnect it (at the valve) and plug it up. Link to comment
Danny caddyshack Noonan Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 If you can figure out how to open it and put it back together, aquarium charcoal is acceptable to use to refurbish charcoal canisters. It is just activated charcoal. Link to comment
SKYGZR Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Remove the Worthless thing. This type of Crap don't belong on motorcycles.....get rid of it. Link to comment
DrPaul Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Remove the Worthless thing. This type of Crap don't belong on motorcycles.....get rid of it. Amen, brother! The solution to the problem of allowing unspent fuel to vaporize into the atmosphere is to ride your motorcycle a lot thereby never permitting them little hydrocarbon atoms to escape your tank! But, if you want to replace the cannister, I've got 3 or 4 of 'em around here somewhere! Link to comment
APDDave Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 If I do away with it, will it upset the computer system on the bike? Will anything else have to be reset or readjusted? Link to comment
Boffin Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 If I do away with it, will it upset the computer system on the bike? Will anything else have to be reset or readjusted? They are only fitted to USA market bikes. Just be sure both throttle body vents are capped, and that the tank is vented. On non-US bikes the vent hose runs alongside the filler-neck drain hose to behind the riders RH footpeg. Removal has no impact on the running of the bike. Andy Link to comment
DrPaul Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 If I do away with it, will it upset the computer system on the bike? Will anything else have to be reset or readjusted? Nope. Link to comment
kmac Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 wont hurt anything. and a little tip is to cut ALL vent hose on a slash cut angle or to split them at the end so that they will have a harder time clogging. A square butt cut on the end of a hose leaves a small 1/8" opening that can be clogged by road grim or debris, but if you bologna cut the ends it leaves a much bigger tip to the cut and thus harder to clog. Or you can cut a 1" long slit from the end of the square butt cut hose up the center of the hose. Link to comment
John in NC Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 While your at it replace the plugs with Autolite APP3923. It will run like a new bike. Link to comment
Wooster Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 David, The clever name for charcoal cannister removal is "cannisterectomy". Look under that name either here (BMWSportTouring) or at IBMWR.com for complete instructions. FWIW I removed my can several years ago with no ill effects. Wooster Link to comment
JonathanE Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 David, The clever name for charcoal cannister removal is "cannisterectomy". Look under that name either here (BMWSportTouring) or at IBMWR.com for complete instructions. FWIW I removed my can several years ago with no ill effects. Wooster +1 Link to comment
Ken H. Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Remove the Worthless thing. This type of Crap don't belong on motorcycles.....get rid of it. Well I’ve got to jump in here as at least one dissenter. The fuel vapor emission control system on vehicles, including on motorcycles, does serve one worthy purpose - it reduces fuel vapor emissions, a significant source of pollution of the air we all have to breath. Repair it don’t remove it. Link to comment
ragtoplvr Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Add one more dissenter. Additionally, you will get slightly better fuel economy with the canister, as the recovered vapors are burned. It might be difficult to measure, but it will occur. Rod Link to comment
ElevenFifty Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 An another dissenter ... easy enough to repair ... does no harm and is good for the air your grand children will breath Link to comment
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