Twisties Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dinner with ltljohn at the Cancun Cafe, 1891 E. Ft. Union Blvd (in the strip mall with the state liquor/wine store) Tuesday February 5th at 6:30 PM. Who's IN? Jan Link to comment
Fugu Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I'll check with the missus. Link to comment
awagnon Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Depending on the weather, since I come from Ogden, I'll try to make it. Keep me posted of any changes in time or location. Al Link to comment
JohnBryer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 hmmmm....new guy to SLC here (from Charlotte) and my wife is out of town next week. I might need to make this one Link to comment
Twisties Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Nice! Welcome to SLC. Jan Link to comment
hindsight Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Cool. I should be able to make it. See you there. Link to comment
hopz Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hi guys... Suz and I will put it on the calendar, but its a 50/50 plan. We have a house full of Florida people arriving to make trails in the snow. Depending on their schedule we might be able to break away. OBTW the best beer in town is either at FUGU's house, or Mine.... We have already heard about Squatters and Bohemian, but do not rule out Desert Edge Cafe and brew pub. Link to comment
Fugu Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 OBTW the best beer in town is either at FUGU's house, or Mine.... Truer words have never been spoken although I might be a little biased. You win my "best brewpub patio" award. I also forgot Desert Edge, and I do like their beer. I still need to have you and Suz up to our place when your dance card frees up a little. If we give it a couple weeks, my barleywine should be ready- I have high hopes for it. Link to comment
hopz Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hopz and Suz are IN... as fate would have it, our house guests arrive later in the day (actually night) thus we can do dinner with you all at the Cancun... Looking forward to it, and hope the weather cooperates. Fugu, if your barleywine is as "spirited" as your IPA, I think we may need to reserve a room nearby... Link to comment
Matts_12GS Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 my barleywine should be ready- I have high hopes for it. Hey ltljohn, ship me one of Fugu's barleywines if they're ready? Sounds mighty yummy! Link to comment
Bullett Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey! This is shaping up into a real party! Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 See what happens when you ask where to eat in a new town! Link to comment
JohnBryer Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 So how will I know you guys? This is me (in front of my wife's bike) Link to comment
Twisties Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 It's a small place. We'll figure it out. I'm the one drinking Mike's (Fugu's) barely wine (I wish). There are some pics of Bullett (Sharon) and me in this thread: Some Monday's Don't S___! We'll probably be in a white '02 Maxima. Don't be shy, most of us have only met a few times ourselves, and none of us, that I know of, have met ltljohn. Link to comment
awagnon Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 John, I should be there, and I'm usually early since I can't predict the traffic from Ogden. Here's a link to my mug shot. Linky to ugly mug Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 We should all try to wear something BMW maybe? Hats t-shirts etc. Link to comment
Matts_12GS Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here John, lemme help! John deep in thought: A really familiar pose: With most of the family... Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Gee thanks Matt, I would have preferred the mardi gras rubber chicken picture Glenda sent to her mother. Link to comment
Fugu Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Fugu, if your barleywine is as "spirited" as your IPA, I think we may need to reserve a room nearby... Yes, I kinda suck at subtlety . It's going to be a whopper. 20+lbs of grain for~ 5 gallons. I pitched a half gallon starter of White Labs ultra high gravity yeast. By the way, I took a page from your book - I mashed and sparged that monster batch of grain again after I boiled the barleywine and made what should be a nice little beer out of the leftovers -I figured if it fails, the incremental cost was practically nil anyhow and I didn't want to waste what was left. Thanks for the suggestion. I have to apologize to you guys here - I apparently gave you the impression this barleywine might be ready for ltljohn's arrival but it won't be - with luck it will just be going into bottles around that time and then it will need a couple weeks in them. I was talking a couple weeks farther down the road. Of course I do have some other homebrew that is in portable 2L containers ready to go that I'd love to share... I've heard conflicting reports- is it legal to brown bag in UT? Anybody have any idea if the restaurant would care? I've never been there. I think it would be legal on a federal level since I'm not selling. Link to comment
Matts_12GS Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 any time John... Glad I can help! Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Fugu, if your barleywine is as "spirited" as your IPA, I think we may need to reserve a room nearby... Yes, I kinda suck at subtlety . It's going to be a whopper. 20+lbs of grain for~ 5 gallons. I pitched a half gallon starter of White Labs ultra high gravity yeast. By the way, I took a page from your book - I mashed and sparged that monster batch of grain again after I boiled the barleywine and made what should be a nice little beer out of the leftovers -I figured if it fails, the incremental cost was practically nil anyhow and I didn't want to waste what was left. Thanks for the suggestion. I have to apologize to you guys here - I apparently gave you the impression this barleywine might be ready for ltljohn's arrival but it won't be - with luck it will just be going into bottles around that time and then it will need a couple weeks in them. I was talking a couple weeks farther down the road. Of course I do have some other homebrew that is in portable 2L containers ready to go that I'd love to share... I've heard conflicting reports- is it legal to brown bag in UT? Anybody have any idea if the restaurant would care? I've never been there. I think it would be legal on a federal level since I'm not selling. As luck would have it, I will be back in SLC at least two more times this year dates are TBA. Link to comment
hopz Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 As I said before- we will be there if the weather cooperates. We had a little dusting this morning... Thats my front walk... you ought to see the driveway! Link to comment
Fugu Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 As luck would have it, I will be back in SLC at least two more times this year dates are TBA. You might want to reserve judgment on how lucky you are until you meet us. Holy mackarel Hopz! I had some drifts this morning, but that's ridiculous! Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 As luck would have it, I will be back in SLC at least two more times this year dates are TBA. You might want to reserve judgment on how lucky you are until you meet us. Holy mackarel Hopz! I had some drifts this morning, but that's ridiculous! You ride Motorcycles and brew your own beer, how bad could it be? Link to comment
ltljohn Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Of course I do have some other homebrew that is in portable 2L containers ready to go that I'd love to share... I've heard conflicting reports- is it legal to brown bag in UT? Anybody have any idea if the restaurant would care? I've never been there. I think it would be legal on a federal level since I'm not selling. From the Utah State Liquor Control Board website http://www.alcbev.state.ut.us/Liquor_Laws/liquor_laws_affecting_visitors.html#brown_bagging "Brown Bagging" "Brown Bagging" is a term-of-art that refers to the practice of bringing alcoholic beverages into an establishment that is open to the public for consumption on the premises. This practice is generally prohibited, however there are three exceptions. 1) A person may bring bottled wines onto the premises of a full service, or limited service restaurant or private club liquor licensee (at the discretion of the licensee) and consume the wine. 2) Alcoholic beverages may be brought onto and consumed in limousines and charter busses under certain restrictions. 3) A person may bring onto any premises, have, and consume any alcoholic beverage at a privately-hosted event (private party) that is not open to the general public (see http://www.le.state.ut.us/%7Ecode/TITLE32A/TITLE32A.htm Link to comment
Twisties Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 Of course I do have some other homebrew that is in portable 2L containers ready to go that I'd love to share... I've heard conflicting reports- is it legal to brown bag in UT? Anybody have any idea if the restaurant would care? I've never been there. I think it would be legal on a federal level since I'm not selling. From the Utah State Liquor Control Board website http://www.alcbev.state.ut.us/Liquor_Laws/liquor_laws_affecting_visitors.html#brown_bagging "Brown Bagging" "Brown Bagging" is a term-of-art that refers to the practice of bringing alcoholic beverages into an establishment that is open to the public for consumption on the premises. This practice is generally prohibited, however there are three exceptions. 1) A person may bring bottled wines onto the premises of a full service, or limited service restaurant or private club liquor licensee (at the discretion of the licensee) and consume the wine. 2) Alcoholic beverages may be brought onto and consumed in limousines and charter busses under certain restrictions. 3) A person may bring onto any premises, have, and consume any alcoholic beverage at a privately-hosted event (private party) that is not open to the general public (see http://www.le.state.ut.us/%7Ecode/TITLE32A/TITLE32A.htm However, there is more. I won't go find the code, take my word for this. The above applies to items which are legally obtained in Utah and bear the state stamp. Restaurants will not allow wines bootlegged into the state in their establishments, they can lose their license. You can only bring wine, not beer or liquor. Homebrewing itself is of questionable legality here. The state statute is fairly explicit that "no person" may brew without a license, however, when you read the definition of "person" in the statute it is to be taken in context and includes entities such as businesses. The no person may be brew clause is clearly and solely in a commercial context. Never the less, the ABC takes the position that homebrewing is illegal. However there are a number of brew supply shops operating with impunity, and they take the position that it is legal. There has been only one case and it went to trial, but the charge was dropped in a plea agreement (there were other charges) before the judge ruled. So the fact is we just don't know. In any event the state does not seem interested in enforcing their position. My position is that the State was aware of the federal exemption allowing 200 gallons per household per year when it wrote the statute, and they failed to specifically address it. I think that lends strong weight to the argument that the legislature did not intend the clause to apply to individuals. Too, so far the tenth circuit has been pretty forceful in telling the State where to go in alcohol cases. On the other hand, I don't care to spend my personal fortune defending myself against criminal and tax evasion charges even though I might well eventually win, so I don't take homebrew to the park. See ya'll Tuesday! Jan Link to comment
Fugu Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Great, now I'm a criminal... More info here: http://www.beertown.org/statutes/utah.htm http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-002675.php Being aware of the federal law legalizing brewing under 200 gallons I never checked on UT. That cracks me up. You'll take my hydrometer and my pint glass from my cold dead hands! the "law": 32A-8-101 Commission's power to grant licenses -- Limitations. (3) A person may not manufacture any alcoholic beverage unless an alcoholic beverage manufacturing license has been issued by the commission. A separate license is required for each place of manufacture, storage, and sale of alcoholic beverages. Violation of this subsection is a class B misdemeanor. Link to comment
hopz Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I always take the position that my hobby is so much more fun when it not only produces great beer but is a felony as well. Link to comment
Matts_12GS Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I always take the position that my hobby is so much more fun when it not only produces great beer but is a felony as well. after all, what good is reward without risk? Link to comment
awagnon Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Restaurants will not allow wines bootlegged into the state in their establishments, they can lose their license. You can only bring wine, not beer or liquor. We tried to buy beer and wine for our beemer club's Christmas party at HAFB to reduce the cost. Several of us have access to the "candy store" at the base. However, the restaurant wouldn't allow us because alcoholic beverages at HAFB don't have Utah tax stamps. Thus, we had to buy from the state owned liquor store. You gotta love it here.... Link to comment
ltljohn Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What a place, I asked a few locals where to eat and now it seems that I will be having dinner with 6 friends I have never met!! Link to comment
bakerzdosen Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What a place, I asked a few locals where to eat and now it seems that I will be having dinner with 6 friends I have never met!! Well, if I was gonna be in town, it'd be 7... Link to comment
awagnon Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 What a place, I asked a few locals where to eat and now it seems that I will be having dinner with 6 friends I have never met!! There probably will be seven. The wife is planning to come along if Sharon and Susie are going to be there. Link to comment
hopz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Susie is planning to be there... maybe we need to call for a back room? Link to comment
Twisties Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 Susie is planning to be there... maybe we need to call for a back room? I'll give them a call Tuesday. I don't know if there is a back room. It's a small very casual eatery in a strip mall. We usually go to their other location which is near our house. I haven't been in this location in a couple of years, but I don't think it gets crowded. Andy, is Debi coming? Mike how about Karla? So I have it as: John (ltljohn) John (JohnBreyer) Andy (hindsight) Debi (Mrs. hindsight) ? Al (awagnon) Ms. Al Bob (hopz) Suz (Mrs. hopz) Mike (fugu)? (last offically stated still checking w/Mrs., but sounds like in) Karla (Mrs. fugu)? Sharon (Bullett, Mrs. Twisties) Twisties (Jan, Mr. Bullett ) So I have it at 9 to 12 persons. Jan Link to comment
hindsight Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 It is unlikely that Debi will be joining us. Out built-in baby sitter has ballet class on Tuesdays. But I will see if we can find someone else to watch the younger kids so she can come with. It may be a last minute thing so I hope we don't throw off the plans or skew the numbers if she is able to make it. Thanks for asking. See you Tuesday. Link to comment
JohnBryer Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I live at the top of south mountain. I just finished shoveling at least 2 feet of snow. I sure hope there isn't any more by Tuesday. Link to comment
awagnon Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 John (ltljohn) John (JohnBreyer) Andy (hindsight) Debi (Mrs. hindsight) ? Al (awagnon) Ms. Al Bob (hopz) Suz (Mrs. hopz) Mike (fugu)? (last offically stated still checking w/Mrs., but sounds like in) Karla (Mrs. fugu)? Sharon (Bullett, Mrs. Twisties) Twisties (Jan, Mr. Bullett Mrs. Al is Judy. Link to comment
Fugu Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Me Mike Fugu 80% sure I can attend. MrsFugu (Carla) is 50%. Big goings on at work. Should know more today. Link to comment
ltljohn Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Looking forward to meeting all of you. See you tomorrow! John Link to comment
JohnBryer Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Good time tonight everyone. It was great meeting you all. Can't wait to get out and ride with you too. Link to comment
Bullett Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It was great to get together to break tortillas with old and new friends. See y'all next time. Link to comment
ltljohn Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hey everybody, Thanks for the hospitality. I had a great time! Link to comment
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