skinny_tom (aka boney) Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 No phones with Cameras. No phones with recorders. No two way radios. No GPS. No phones with GPS. No no no no NO NO NO NO NO! 50,000 dollar fine for having one of the above on site. 10,000 dollar fine for getting caught at the gate trying to get in. Google Maps? PRICELESS! Tomorrow we go "forward." Link to comment
skinny_tom (aka boney) Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Oh, hey, switch to Satellite and explore! Link to comment
smiller Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I quit the CIA a while ago so I'm out of touch. What is it? Link to comment
mrduck Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Cool-always been interested in that place! Suppose Kaizer can get a group rate on a tour while in DV? Link to comment
skinny_tom (aka boney) Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 oh, and 50k fine for molesting a Desert Tortise. Information here is on a need to know basis. It usually goes like this: "what is that?" "They tell me to stay out... That's all you need to know." Oh, and area 51 isn't part of the Nevada Test Site. (right, it's part of the Groom Lake Facility, isn't it?) Link to comment
Bill_Walker Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 oh, and 50k fine for molesting a Desert Tortise. Information here is on a need to know basis. It usually goes like this: "what is that?" "They tell me to stay out... That's all you need to know." Oh, and area 51 isn't part of the Nevada Test Site. (right, it's part of the Groom Lake Facility, isn't it?) I think this'll show you Groom Lake. If you zoom in enough, Google says it's also "Nevada Test Site". Kinda makes sense, since they're both in the area bounded by highways 95, 93, 375 and 6. Link to comment
ShovelStrokeEd Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I deal with some of that at certain of my client's sites. Depending on who, where and what part of the facility, it can be no phones only down to can't even bring a floppy disc. In a way it is kinda nice to go back to the old days when the only thing in my brief case was a couple of drawings and a couple of expense reports. You can tell by the level of fencing and barbed wire and the amount of armament the guards are carrying, what you will be dealing with. I'll be doing a couple of these over the next month or so. National Labs and a couple of military facilities. Yeah, wazzat? can be a real bad idea. Quite often they are required to report your question and too much curiosity will find you ejected/barred from the site. Link to comment
ghaverkamp Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 National Labs and a couple of military facilities. Sure, the national labs may concern themselves with what you take in. Now, if only they'd pay a little more attention to what people take out... Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 You can tell by the level of fencing and barbed wire and the amount of armament the guards are carrying, what you will be dealing with. I'll be doing a couple of these over the next month or so. National Labs and a couple of military facilities. Where I work (a guvmint lab), everything was fine until 9/11, then we put up a big fence and a vehicle barrier that can stop a dump truck, and the guards started carrying guns. But if you forget your ID (or even your whole wallet, including driver license, as I did last week), you can still get in if you ask nicely. On the other end of the spectrum, a friend of mine juggles plutonium for a living at a national lab. She says the guards all walk around with M-16's across their stomach, one hand on the stock. When you arrive for work, you hand over your ID card for visual and tactile inspection; IOW, the guard makes sure the ID hasn't been physically altered. And if you've forgotten your ID, you might as well go home, because you are NOT gettin' in today. They recently added a vehicle-mounted Gatling gun to their security system, which has some of their neighbors - who put up houses after the lab was on the scene - a little nervous. Link to comment
ShovelStrokeEd Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Oh goody, I'm headed up there in November. I betcha I'll be in the building complex right next door. I can't even get in there with a rental car, the contact has to come pick me up at the hotel. Link to comment
ghaverkamp Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 They recently added a vehicle-mounted Gatling gun to their security system, which has some of their neighbors - who put up houses after the lab was on the scene - a little nervous. Which is comforting, as their security staff isn't known for its marksmanship. Of course, that's why all of their folks just changed employers 2 weeks ago. The government lab I work at doesn't have armed guards or cement barriers, though we do have a perimeter fence. Link to comment
ESokoloff Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 A dozen years ago I worked for a company that serviced several centrifugal chillers at the B-2 test facility out at Edward's AFB. When you checked in you were assigned an escort that accompanied you for the duration of your visit. The escort carried a hand held flashing tone generating device to announce the presence of unclassified person. They affectionately called it "The Leper Light" Link to comment
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