David Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Source This will allow you to not only change the fuel mapping but also manage the closed loop system. It can set the A/F ratio for the closed loop, i.e. 14.1, 13.5, 12.1... Apparently they'll be available for the K bike line, R bike line, F650, and even the new GS. Link to comment
270 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Wheelie bars or a Power Commander...Decisions, decisions. Link to comment
steveknapp Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 It can set the A/F ratio for the closed loop, i.e. 14.1, 13.5, 12.1... Unlike most aftermarket products that claim to adjust A/F to something other than 14.7 this one actually has a wideband O2 sensor! Link to comment
StretchMark Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Ouch..MSRP $495 Is there enough of a difference to justify this over the Techlusion? Link to comment
David Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 Ouch..MSRP $495 Is there enough of a difference to justify this over the Techlusion? Neither is a good value if you are trying to justify the purchase of a new bike! Link to comment
Spike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 So when do yo get yours David ? Link to comment
steveknapp Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The "good" techlusion was $300ish. So you're talking another $200 for a device that.... - Has a real wideband O2 sensor, no playing games trying to get information out of a sensor that's not there. - Has TPS input, no guessing what the throttle is doing from the injector outputs - Real mapping features, maps, not just three pots. - Tools that let you remap the fueling yourself. The techlusion has worked well for many people, and it's hard to argue with that. But this is a better solution. And IMHO $200 isn't that much more for the improvements. I am a bit disapointed that it does not allow any control over ignition timing. Link to comment
David Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 So when do yo get yours David ? It's not me I was talking about! Link to comment
StretchMark Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Just keeping my options open Link to comment
Bob Borzelleri Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Looks a lot like my Baehr Ultima XL Communicator. I wonder if it will play MP3 files? ...Bob Link to comment
Hewhois Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Woohoo! Thanks for the news flash! I know what I want for Christmas now Link to comment
David_S Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I wonder if it would eliminate the forward lurch at 2200rpm and the 5k flat spot on the 12GS? Link to comment
David Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 I wonder if it would eliminate the forward lurch at 2200rpm and the 5k flat spot on the 12GS? It might, but BMW has actually fixed it themselves. According to the UKGser folks, there's a software download they'll perform on the bike at your next service that fixes it...and the rubmly idle. Link to comment
D. Zielke Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I have some experience with Dynojet Power Commander(s) as used for H-D's. They are pretty effective devices, but are *only* optimised by using a *dynomometer* for tuning. So, add a couple of hours of dyno time to the actual cost of going this route. Link to comment
mmmoore Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 This unit has injector connectors so does it replace the Motronic unit or does it work with the Motronic unit? Link to comment
steveknapp Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 but are *only* optimised by using a *dynomometer* for tuning Friends who have had them have had good luck with using the maps that someone else came up with. As long as your bike is a similar configuration. I'd expect the HD's were more modified. The wideband O2 also helps with this to some extent. It goes between the Motronic and the injectors. So it does not replace the motronic. Link to comment
Deans BMW Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Chris at San Jose BMW is the one doing the development work with Power Commander for BMW applications. He has done extensive programing for the PC on the dyno and can supply preprogramed PC's for your specific application. The Techlusion in no way comes close to what a properly programed Power Commander can do, not in the same league at all. Link to comment
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