Albion Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I've got neat-looking stickers on my helmet that warn: "Do not remove helmet without medical supervision unless rider unable to breathe". Seems like solid advice to offer anyone non-medical who is trying to help in an emergency, as the idea of piloting a wheelchair is not very appealing. Just bought a new helmet for my wife (her birthday present actually, she's still p*ssed that it wasn't perfume, but hey ho) and it seems a good idea to put a couple of stickers on this helmet too. Can't seem to find any for sale in the UK, any known sources elsewhere? Your advice will be appreciated. Link to comment
RFW Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Not worth the bother. No one will pay any attention to the sticker. They will just remove the helmet anyway, thinking they are doing you a favour. Link to comment
USAF1 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 You might try the American Motorcycle Association (AMA). Seems to me they're the ones to have all that kind of thing at the MC shows here. I just sent them an email asking about them......will let you know what I get back. Pat Link to comment
Aluminum_Butt Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 They're available HERE. Cycle Gadgets has them HERE. It's the same item as the meds.org label, but has the Cycle Gadgets logo on it. CG does not specifically say that their product warns to not remove the helmet, and the pictures are too small to tell for sure. Might want to ask them to make sure. Link to comment
tobyzusa Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Would anyone really notice? I put a stiker on my buddy's helemt at work (on the back) that said, "Harley's Suck". He rode with it for a month until one of his fellow HOG riders finally asked what the heck he had that on his helmet for.... I denied all knowlegde. Link to comment
Doppelganger Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I got mine when I graduated from the MSF Beginner's Course. Link to comment
Doppelganger Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Found this... Helmet Sticker Link to comment
Crazy_Canuck Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Would anyone really notice? I put a stiker on my buddy's helemt at work (on the back) that said, "Harley's Suck". He rode with it for a month until one of his fellow HOG riders finally asked what the heck he had that on his helmet for.... I denied all knowlegde. Link to comment
Albion Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Found this... Helmet Sticker Thanks guys, and to you Doppelg, that's good and it's here in England too Link to comment
moshe_levy Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Here's one advertised in the AMA's monthly mag http://www.resqtag.com/ I got mine for free after taking the MSF "Expert" course. -MKL Link to comment
jakfrost Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Ever since my first track day event, years ago, I have had the same 3 stickers on mine and my wife's helmet. DO NOT REMOVE TYPE A POSITIVE NO ALLERGIES I make them up myself using florescent tape in my 'Brother P-Touch' label maker and have had a number of people ask me: a) Why do you have that, do you have a death wish, or plan on having an accident? b) Where did you get them... I would never NOT have them because I thought someone MIGHT NOT see them. They just might too... Jim Link to comment
subvet Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I love this one Seriously...anyone know why they do not cut a helmet off? It would seem to me to be easier/safer to split the helmet and open it up with less risk than pulling it over your ears. Link to comment
Jim VonBaden Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I love this one Seriously...anyone know why they do not cut a helmet off? It would seem to me to be easier/safer to split the helmet and open it up with less risk than pulling it over your ears. Just a guess but the movement of cutting a helmet can't be any better than careful removal of a helmet. Maybe the cruiser riders have it right with the half helmet. Easier and safer to remove. Then again, they probably need more help than a full faced helmet person does! Jim Link to comment
graemer57 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Seems like solid advice to offer anyone non-medical who is trying to help in an emergency, as the idea of piloting a wheelchair is not very appealing. Interestingly on my last Red Cross First Aid refresher course they have changed their policy and now recommend helmet removal. The rationale behind the change is that more riders were dying from blocked airways and other problems inside helmets that had been left on 'for safety's sake' than are damaged by their removal. The paramedic tutor said they were encountering a lot of resistance to the practice from members of the public at accidents. Of course one could argue that a first-aid trained person my be more skilled at safe helemt removal but it does raise an interesting point. Link to comment
Albion Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 Interesting. Once again, conventional wisdom seems suspect. A quick google produces Red Cross info http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=48904&cachefixer= Another gives http://www.nabd.org.uk/openhouse/openhouse47/47p6.htm St Johns quoted as: "Casualties wearing helmets: A full-faced helmet should only be removed if the injured rider does not have a clear airway and cannot breathe. In all other circumstances the helmet should remain in place unless the rider chooses to remove it him/herself. In the situation where a casualty requires expired air resuscitation and is wearing a full-faced helmet, the helmet must be removed by at least two people. The first person must ensure that the head and neck are completely stabilised and supported to avoid any further damage. The second person must carefully remove the helmet in a way that minimises all movement to the head and neck. Once the helmet has been removed, the first aiders can perform expired air resuscitation." Which says that the whole topic is immensely more complicated than I had understood. So in reality, as a crashed and maybe conscious rider, you are completely at the mercy of anyone first on the scene, and any generalised advice is likely to be wrong. But maybe the wording on the old sticker that I have, if anyone bothers to read it in the heat of the moment, is not all bad. (See my original post that sparked this thread). Full face helmet? Maybe I'd get a get-out-of-jail-free card with my flip front helmet, if any non-motorcyclist could work out how to get the catch open! I may be wiser investing in a St Christopher sticker!!! Link to comment
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