jakfrost Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Has anyone tried, or know someone who has tried this method of tire balancing?? http://www.innovativebalancing.com/gallery1.htm If it does half of what it claims it could be worth the 8.00 - 10.00 to try it. I assume it would eliminate the cost of a 'Marc Parnes' setup... Jim Link to comment
Dave_in_TX Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 What advantage does this has over the liquid tire balancers? Link to comment
FrankBrown Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 A couple of months ago, not withstanding my memory, one of the mc magazines tested these beads and said they were worthless. Link to comment
aggieengineer Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Since these beads will seek the furthest spot they can get from the center of rotation due to centripetal force, and that location already being the heavy spot, it would seem that they would only make the imbalance slightly worse. Any real-world experience out there? That would be a fun experiment with a spin balancer. Link to comment
jakfrost Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 That was my thinking exactly...how the heck do they get the beads, or liquid, or powder to NOT go to the heaviest point on the tire. In fact, to go to the exact opposite point. And then STAY there... My 'spydie sense' is tingling... Jim Link to comment
gettysburg Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I recall seeing that article as well. I think they said the technique is only slightly better than an unbalanced tire, but much worse than a properly balanced tire. Link to comment
gettysburg Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I can understand that the beads would to seek the furthest spot from center of rotation, but why would you assume that's already the "heaviest" spot on the tire? Link to comment
black99S Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 little balls roll around liquid moves centripetal force will fling both to the outer limit of possible movement why not just piss in your tire after a few beers - it will be as effective as the beeds and won't cost anything. Link to comment
jakfrost Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 Wellll, I guess my thinking is that the heaviest spot would by centrifigal force, be the point driven furthest from the center (by its weight)...hence the balls would follow, no? Jim Link to comment
keithb Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I just mounted 2 new tires 3 weeks ago at the SoCal tech day and had no means to balance them so we put the dot on the tire at the valve stem on both rims. I have ridden just over 400 miles on these new tires and I cannot feel one bit of vibration coming from them at all. A former racer told me you could balance the front but the rear was a total waste of time. FYI for what it is worth. Link to comment
jakfrost Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 I have heard this before Keith...and part of me wants to believe, but, well, I guess its like buying insurance. You probably will never need it... but just in case . Jim Link to comment
keithb Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Jim I did not have much choice at the time but to mount it. I could take it off and balance it I guess but it feels fine so why bother? Link to comment
Emoto Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What advantage does this has over the liquid tire balancers? I cannot answer your question, but I can tell you that all of the tire manufacturers recommend AGAINST liquid balancers because their leak stopping properties can prevent one from noticing a hole, thus leaving the tire in service longer with damage. The concern is that this might allow the damage to worsen and the tire to suffer catastrophic deflation without much warning. I stopped using liquid balancers when I learned this. It doesn't take much longer to balance a tire on a trueing stand than to pump in a bunch of goo, anyway... Link to comment
Jim VonBaden Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 What advantage does this has over the liquid tire balancers? I cannot answer your question, but I can tell you that all of the tire manufacturers recommend AGAINST liquid balancers because their leak stopping properties can prevent one from noticing a hole, thus leaving the tire in service longer with damage. The concern is that this might allow the damage to worsen and the tire to suffer catastrophic deflation without much warning. I stopped using liquid balancers when I learned this. It doesn't take much longer to balance a tire on a trueing stand than to pump in a bunch of goo, anyway... Plus the liquids are a PITA when it comes time to change the tire! Jim Link to comment
John Moylan Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 ..why not just piss in your tire after a few beers - it will be as effective as the beeds and won't cost anything. I dunno, maybe 'yours' fits in a valve stem. OTH, without even checking, I'm fairly confident mine won't fit...... And how about that front wheel with two discs......any access issues there?? Link to comment
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