Old School Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I know that this is a hotly contested topic, and may stir up some controversy, but I thought I would share some information that i found in my Haynes service manual. Link to comment
chrisolson Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Not a criticism of your post ,,, but purely in jest ... my oil is better than your oil ... Quote "The extra expense at each service ..." of course not forgetting that old bromide ... "the cheapest thing on a BMW is the rider " 1 Link to comment
Rougarou Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 34 minutes ago, chrisolson said: Not a criticism of your post ,,, but purely in jest ... my oil is better than your oil ... of course not forgetting that old bromide ... "the cheapest thing on a BMW is the rider " Rotella T6, everything else is just,.....oil Link to comment
Rinkydink Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I have started running my oil through my Keurig before it goes in my scoot. The difference is amazing! 1 1 Link to comment
taylor1 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 hours ago, Rinkydink said: running my oil through my Keurig Which filter do you use ? 1 1 Link to comment
Rougarou Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 45 minutes ago, taylor1 said: Which filter do you use ? If it's not an unbleached filter, you will not get the same benefits as Rotella, only the unbleached filters will help all lesser oils to reach a level of Rotella 2 Link to comment
Skywagon Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I use peanut oil… has a higher smoke point, and in a pinch you can drain enough to make fries 1 1 Link to comment
Hosstage Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I liked the statement in the manual about modern high-revving motorcycles benefitting from synthetic oil. I wouldn't exactly classify the boxer motor as high revving. Link to comment
chrisolson Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I think the OP was focusing on the " overall advantages" of full synthetic ... the manual also makes no mention of the JASSO four stroke standard Link to comment
Hosstage Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, chrisolson said: I think the OP was focusing on the " overall advantages" of full synthetic ... the manual also makes no mention of the JASSO four stroke standard I figured the same, I just found that high revving statement funny in a Boxer motor manual. I use synthetic in my Harley, and it is the antithesis of high revving, so I acknowledge the benefits of syn oil. Link to comment
dduelin Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, chrisolson said: I think the OP was focusing on the " overall advantages" of full synthetic ... the manual also makes no mention of the JASSO four stroke standard What the heck is JASSO four stroke standard? If JASO MA is referenced then low moly content to meet JASO standards for wet clutch compatibility has no application to the dry clutch found in hexhead/camhead engines. FWIW I do prefer the extra protection of a synthetic in an engine that is not liquid cooled. Liquid cooled engines operate within a narrow range of oil temperatures but air/oil cooled engines cannot control oil temps like that. You can smell and see the difference over time between mineral oil and synthetic oil on internal engine surfaces. One has brownish or caramel colored deposits and one does not. Unless of course it's a low mileage example. Link to comment
chrisolson Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, dduelin said: What the heck is JASSO four stroke standard? Sorry ... typo with extra "S". .. Haynes specifically referenced the 2 stroke specification (shown at bottom of screen shot) in their discussion of oil which the OP referenced source https://www.rymax-lubricants.com/updates/what-does-the-jaso-oil-specification-mean/ Link to comment
Rinkydink Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 16 hours ago, taylor1 said: Which filter do you use ? I have an old UNI foam filter right now. Checking on a K&N. It’s a lifetime filter. Link to comment
Rougarou Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, Rinkydink said: Checking on a K&N. It’s a lifetime filter. You get another 15-20 horsepower with that one,........don't know why you waiting so long to get it 2 1 Link to comment
Hosstage Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 42 minutes ago, Rougarou said: You get another 15-20 horsepower with that one,........don't know why you waiting so long to get it That and a slip-on pipe and you'll be doing unintended wheelies every roll of the throttle! 2 Link to comment
taylor1 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I didn't know K&N made a filter to fit a Keurig 1 1 Link to comment
Rougarou Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 41 minutes ago, taylor1 said: I didn't know K&N made a filter to fit a Keurig Well,...now you know and knowing is half the battle. 1 1 Link to comment
taylor1 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Yep ,it's the other half that really scares me 1 1 Link to comment
szurszewski Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/28/2024 at 7:50 AM, Hosstage said: I liked the statement in the manual about modern high-revving motorcycles benefitting from synthetic oil. I wouldn't exactly classify the boxer motor as high revving. ...or modern.... 1 Link to comment
Hosstage Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, szurszewski said: ...or modern.... Well, I didn't want to disparage such a beloved brand! 1 Link to comment
szurszewski Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 hours ago, Hosstage said: Well, I didn't want to disparage such a beloved brand! modern doesn't always mean better ;) Link to comment
Hosstage Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 59 minutes ago, szurszewski said: modern doesn't always mean better ;) Nope. I still stick with my old tractor motor Harley, still brings a smile to my face every time. And it's been quite reliable. It's about as simple a machine as there is. The motor is basically an old pushrod Chevy motor with two cylinders. Link to comment
pwillikers Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Up until today I thought a Rotella was a tomato! Learn something of value every day admonished my mother! 1 Link to comment
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