OK, which one of you'll fled from the LEO's

[motorman587]

http://www.craigdailypress.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/22113

[X_BamaCop]

Never chased anyone at that age on a motorcyle anyway! Only BMW motorcycle I chased was a demo that was not taken back and was in the hands of an inexperianced rider and dope dealer. Convicted after he crashed it and totalled it. Unautorized Use of a Motor Vehicle and Distrubution of Controlled Substance. Saw him walking about a block away from where he crashed about a week ago.

[ESokoloff]

After reading this I have two questions.

 

"Forrest Wil�--liam Voss, 50, of Hannah, Wyo., was arrested near Massadona at 3:40 p.m. Thursday and is charged with felony vehicular eluding, speeding, reckless driving and passing oncoming vehicles."

 

(1)How do you pass oncoming vehicles?

 

"If Voss had hit even an animal as small as a prairie dog at 150 mph, he would have crashed, Smith said."

 

(2)Any truth to that statement?

[X_BamaCop]

I think the word "with" may have been left out of the oncomming vehicles thing! The officers comments which may have not been printed correctly, may also be from an officer who does not ride. However, I would hate to run over anything or hit anything at that high of a speed especially.

[Yeeha! Stephen]

If the guy had wanted to try something like that, he should've come to Dallas.

 

New policy for Dallas PD... NO more high speed chases. Only for a Known violent offense.

 

Not for speeding. Not for evading. Not even for DWI/DUI.

 

Increasing fatality accidents by DPD prompted this decision by the new Chief.

 

Hmmmmmmmm...

[ShovelStrokeEd]

I have had a couple of encounters with animals (small) at speed. Even flattend a couple of prarie dogs at 80+, bike hardly twitches. Hit a 30+ pound dog at 75 and the bike did twitch but no worse than a pothole. Ran over a road gator in Indiana on my 1100S at well over the posted limit. Hard enough to take the back tire clear off the ground and the bike hardly twitched. That one did scare me as I was changing lanes at the time. IMHO, misconception. One of the tracks I used to race on had a really knarly dip near the center of the track right after the finish line. Wind moved me over into it one night at around 160 and I did have a bit of a fight on my hands. That bitty little front tire just wouldn't hold still till I got down to about 100 or so. Steering dampers saved my butt on that one.

[DouglasR]

Crazy coal miner from Wyoming! It wasn't you with a fake ID, was it Richard (TNT)??

 

I was running about 80 mph on Highway 2 headed West toward Minot, NoDak about a month ago, hit an "irregularity" in the asphalt hard enough to pop the fairing-mounted mirror off my fully loaded RT and break one of the luggage mounts... the bike never twitched. Scared the crap out of me, of course, I never even saw the bad piece of asphalt and it was hard to detect even when I turned around and rode back to look for my mirror. It was more like a sharp, deep wave than a pothole. Anyway, point is, I think you have to whack something pretty big pretty hard to derail a 650 pound motorcycle at speed, unless you're leaned way over in a turn or something at the time. A deer or antelope would be serious trouble at that speed....

 

So, what the heck was he riding?? Not a GS or RT, musta been a K12S??

[jackflash]

I guess the cops would rather chase the guy and see him kill himself than just let it go and go on and arrest a drug dealer selling drugs to school kids.

 

Not saying what the guy did was right but why help the guy kill himself? I like the Dallas policy. Chases endanger other motorists minding their own business too.

 

I've got another bike sitting in my garage that they're just not going to catch if I were to decide to run. Doesn't mean I'll run though, doesn't mean I won't...

[RickP]

This guy is probably a paid actor in BMW's new "performance marketing strategy". If I was marketing director, this how I would do it. Probably end up as a teaser and ending story on hundreds of TV news telecasts. And it's much more relevant to their "new" target audience and customers.

 

How long before the patrol car video surfaces on the internet (you could even fake one! BRILLIANT!

[Dances_With_Wiener_Dogs]

Not saying what the guy did was right but why help the guy kill himself?

`Cmon now, no need to start spewing this sort of horse pucky.

 

The guy helped himself when he ran from the first officer. It's not like they threw spike strips out in front of him...

[Gregori]

The guy helped himself when he ran from the first officer. It's not like they threw spike strips out in front of him...

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps he didn't even know the first officer was there?

Seriously - if I were running at upwards 120+ MPH (not that I do it that much these days) it's pretty safe to assume that I'm not really going to be paying a lot of attention to what's in the reariew.

He stopped after he passed/saw the second officer.

 

FWIW - I've hit armadillo, racoon, and skunk at well into three digits on a bike, and it's not that big a deal. KNOWING you're going to hit it is worse that the actual impact. (Worst part is cleaning it off, and getting the stinky parts out of the radiator and belly pan..)

 

So - who's taking up a collection for his defense fund?

 

G.

[Dances_With_Wiener_Dogs]

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps he didn't even know the first officer was there?

Sure. Unless the lights get flipped on as you pass the officer, I can see that you wouldn't see him/her. I've run at WOT for 1/2 hour, north of Twentynine Palms, and despite the fact that there was little out there to begin with, my attention was definitely narrowly focused in front of me.

 

If someone pulled in behind me with lights and siren, I probably wouldn't have heard them until the chase has been on for a while.

[TNT]

No Doug, but, I was off Thursday. I was on the bike, I did take a nice little trip threw the northern Black Hills Thursday is all. honest : I suppose, I will have to slow down. Now that they will be looking for BMW's!

[SlimRT]

I guess the cops would rather chase the guy and see him kill himself than just let it go and go on and arrest a drug dealer selling drugs to school kids.

 

Not saying what the guy did was right but why help the guy kill himself? I like the Dallas policy. Chases endanger other motorists minding their own business too.

 

I've got another bike sitting in my garage that they're just not going to catch if I were to decide to run. Doesn't mean I'll run though, doesn't mean I won't...

 

Yep...It's all the cops fault. A grown man acting like an idiot on a public highway. The cop should have just let the man do whatever the hell he wants. They were definately helping to kill the man. Maybe they should have escorted the said idiot to his destination to ensure his safety. What a joke.

[X_BamaCop]

I quess he means that LEO's should never chase anyone and further increase the problem of criminals running. Police have to let them go because they are not allowed to catch the criminals. I bet they were surprised when they did catch him. If he were riding the guy who posted BMW after he stole it, would he still say oh well let him go and arrest a drug dealer! Or maybe the guy was running like that because he was a drug dealer and then the drugs he was running would make their way to the guy who robbes the quick stop to get more drugs and shoots some people while doing it. No one should run and if you do you should go to jail reguardless. In Alabama it is only a ticket many times. It should be a felony!

[DouglasR]

I've got another bike sitting in my garage that they're just not going to catch if I were to decide to run. Doesn't mean I'll run though, doesn't mean I won't...

 

You can not outrun a radio no matter what you're riding/driving. The police train for this kind of thing, you know.

[Lawman]

I guess the cops would rather chase the guy and see him kill himself than just let it go and go on and arrest a drug dealer selling drugs to school kids.

 

Not saying what the guy did was right but why help the guy kill himself? I like the Dallas policy. Chases endanger other motorists minding their own business too.

 

I've got another bike sitting in my garage that they're just not going to catch if I were to decide to run. Doesn't mean I'll run though, doesn't mean I won't...

 

As difficult as it is for me to pass up I won't take the bait...I refuse to get angry this early in the day I'll just assume you are joking and use this post to tell my little story about chasing a stolen motorcycle..

I chased a young man (18 yrs. old) 2 -3 miles through a subdivision on a small bike before he reached his home, bailed off and ran in his house. With me in foot pursuit I crashed through his front door, snatched his little arse up and fought to drag him to my car. Mom began screaming as she beat me over the head with her broom. Bike was stolen..Kid tells me someone walking down the street gave it to him. Young man charged with Unauthorized Use of Motor Vehicle which is a felony. Kid goes to trial and at the beginning of the trial during the reading of the indictment the prosecuter reads that this defendant was in unexplained possession of said stolen vehicle..During the course of the trial the defense attorney asked me if the young man made any statement to me at the time of the arrest. I said yes and told how he said the bike was given to him by someone walking down the street..At the end of the trial after all testimony the defense asked the judge to dismiss the case claiming that the indictment alleged "unexplained possession" and that by the testimony of the arresting and charging officer that in fact was just not the case and that the defendant did in fact give explanation and that no matter what we might think about his explanation it still was an explanation. The judge agreed, dismissed the case and warned me of severe consequensces if I spoke..

[Lawman]

One more to think about..

17 year old buys crotch rocket..Rides like a bat out of hell. I talk to him. I talk to his parents. I chase him. I write him tickets. I put him in jail. I write him more tickets. He kills himself on it after only a few months. Both me and his dad watch him die in the middle of a highway with his dad holding him in his lap. Do I regret doing all within my power to prevent that..Nope..To the contrary..Wish I coulda done more.

[Blake]

ah yes, there's our FINE justice system at work - gotta luv it!

[tallman]

I've got another bike sitting in my garage that they're just not going to catch if I were to decide to run. Doesn't mean I'll run though, doesn't mean I won't...

 

 

 

You can not outrun a radio no matter what you're riding/driving. The police train for this kind of thing, you know.

Speed of Light vs. some POS motorcycle?

 

Physics wins every time.

Here's a link if you don't understand.

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed-1.html

[Shawnee Bill]

With me in foot pursuit I crashed through his front door, snatched his little arse up and fought to drag him to my car. Mom began screaming as she beat me over the head with her broom. Bike was stolen..

 

Yep, if that would have been me, my Mom would have been using that broom (or something larger) on ME. You would have received plenty of help hauling me out the door. If I engage in unacceptable behavior my parents are going to do everything they can to get me to change my ways.

One thing they did was to be sure that I learned that actions have consequences.

 

As to your other post about the 17 year old on the crouch rocket, that has to be the hardest part of being a LEO. You did what you could, sometimes it just isn't enough and that's not your fault.

[chadhargis]

You can not outrun a radio

 

True, you can't outrun radio waves, but the radio doesn't know where you're going.

 

You have to, as Kenny Rogers says, "Know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em". If you're in a heavily populated area and an officer comes up behind you, they you're caught.

 

If, however, you meet an officer coming toward you (can't see your plate), you are out on a lonely two lane road, in the middle of nowhere, with several roads you know well in all different directions, you have a more than good chance of making a run for it.

 

All that being said, it's not worth the risk to run. If you break the law, take your punishment. I was pulled over recently for doing 20mph over the limit on my bike. I was polite, and offered no excuses to the officer. Told him I was acting foolish and had no excuse for my behavior.

 

He let me off with a warning. Had I run, and got caught, I'm guessing he wouldn't have been so friendly.

[tallman]

Chad,

Remember the article in a major cycle magazine from a couple of years ago?

Out in Colorado the guy ran on a high speed bike.

Eventually the radio and cooperation caught him.

His costs were in excess of $10,000 for attorney fees if I remember and still lost his license, plus major problem obtaining insurance for other vehicles.

I think most jurisdictions can have a pair of eyes in the sky fairly quickly if need be.

And, even though the LEO going the opposite way may not have your tag, most likely he could describe you to his buddy waiting downstream.

Best wishes.

[Lawman]

How bout stopping cause it's the right thing to do..

[ian408]

I quess he means that LEO's should never chase anyone and further increase the problem of criminals running. Police have to let them go because they are not allowed to catch the criminals. I bet they were surprised when they did catch him. If he were riding the guy who posted BMW after he stole it, would he still say oh well let him go and arrest a drug dealer! Or maybe the guy was running like that because he was a drug dealer and then the drugs he was running would make their way to the guy who robbes the quick stop to get more drugs and shoots some people while doing it. No one should run and if you do you should go to jail reguardless. In Alabama it is only a ticket many times. It should be a felony!

 

I would argue that chasing someone because they ran only to have either

the suspect or LEO kill or injure an innocent bystander isn't worth it. Nor

is the property damage caused when the suspect eventually TA's (not to mention

the cost to taxpayers when the plaintiff sues the agency, or when a city

employee is injured on the job).

 

It is a tough question with no easy answer but I definitely favor a law that

makes the RO of a vehicle involved in a high speed chase that's been broken

off (assuming the vehicle has not been reported stolen) responsible. Either

face the music or rat out the person driving. You might even allow for a

boot or confiscation of the vehicle.

 

If the suspect is fleeing from the scene of a violent crime or is reported to

have been involved in a crime of violence, then chase away. But for a simple

traffic violation, go after them later.

[SlimRT]

I would argue that chasing someone because they ran only to have either

the suspect or LEO kill or injure an innocent bystander isn't worth it. Nor

is the property damage caused when the suspect eventually TA's (not to mention

the cost to taxpayers when the plaintiff sues the agency, or when a city

employee is injured on the job).

 

It is a tough question with no easy answer but I definitely favor a law that

makes the RO of a vehicle involved in a high speed chase that's been broken

off (assuming the vehicle has not been reported stolen) responsible. Either

face the music or rat out the person driving. You might even allow for a

boot or confiscation of the vehicle.

 

If the suspect is fleeing from the scene of a violent crime or is reported to

have been involved in a crime of violence, then chase away. But for a simple

traffic violation, go after them later.

 

You would be shocked at how many "real criminals" are arrested after being stopped for a "simple traffic violation". Normal people with everyday problems usually don't run from the police. What if the guy had just robbed a bank, raped a woman or killed his wife and the officer didn't have that information? "Too bad for the victims, I guess. We'll get him next time, hopefully."

 

As far as the guy possibly not seeing or hearing the officer behind him, if he was traveling at a reasonable speed he wouldn't have that problem. But, it sounds like he was obviously running. If he would have stacked it up into a tree, no big loss IMHO.

 

In today's society, cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[ian408]

 

You would be shocked at how many "real criminals" are arrested after being stopped for a "simple traffic violation". Normal people with everyday problems usually don't run from the police. What if the guy had just robbed a bank, raped a woman or killed his wife and the officer didn't have that information? "Too bad for the victims, I guess. We'll get him next time, hopefully."

 

As far as the guy possibly not seeing or hearing the officer behind him, if he was traveling at a reasonable speed he wouldn't have that problem. But, it sounds like he was obviously running. If he would have stacked it up into a tree, no big loss IMHO.

 

In today's society, cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

 

No, probably not shocked or surprised. I guess I'm just unwilling to see some

innocent injured or killed because the chase got out of hand. And to use your

analogy, 'Too bad if we injure or kill someone during the chase. We got our

man!'? Doesn't work for me.

 

We can agree that if you run from the police and end up stacked to a

tree, that's your own fault. As far as damned if you do/damned if you

don't, I offered a suggestion that (hopefully) has the same result and

reduces the risk resulting from a high speed chase.

 

Ian

[motorman587]

We have a no pursuit policy. I do not have the know what the right answer is. I disagree to chase someone for a traffic violation, but then if people know cops do not chase for traffic, will they run all the time.

 

I remember hearing on tv about an officer that attempted to stop a violator, but the guy fled, officer could not chase. This small violator turned out to be a sex pred. and kidnapped a girl and kill her then next day. Same person that fled from officer. In the report this incident messed the officer up. Damed if you do, damed if you do not.

[Marty Hill]

That is a perfect example of the problem. Wonder how the sanctimonious folks would feel if it was their daughter who was the victim? If they run/stop them any way you can!

[Redbrick]

I thought there is some kind of automatic speed limiter at 200 km's/hr, about 124 mph..........

 

Phil.......Redbrick

[ian408]

That is a perfect example of the problem. Wonder how the sanctimonious folks would feel if it was their daughter who was the victim? If they run/stop them any way you can!

 

So what you're saying is that you're willing to sacrifice a family member as

long as the perps are caught? Remember, we are talking about a pursuit for

which the only known fact is failure to pull over.

 

I'm willing to bet that if your wife/daughter/son were killed in this

situation, you wouldn't be on the 6 o'clock news saying how much you supported

the police. I'm willing to bet it's just the opposite.

[Marty Hill]

Twist it all you like. I stand by what I wrote. If they run/nail them. If the runner dies...no biggie to me. Guess I don't live in a perfect dream world.

[SageRider]

Twist it all you like. I stand by what I wrote. If they run/nail them. If the runner dies...no biggie to me...

Amen!

[SlimRT]

Remember, we are talking about a pursuit for

which the only known fact is failure to pull over.

 

I'm willing to bet that if your wife/daughter/son were killed in this

situation, you wouldn't be on the 6 o'clock news saying how much you supported

the police. I'm willing to bet it's just the opposite.

 

Cops deal with unknown facts just about every minute of every workday. That's what they are paid for. And don't forget that another "known fact" is that the violator actually committed a crime in some form to be pulled over in the first place.

 

If my family member were to be injured or killed from a scumbag running from the police, I would be mad at the scumbag not the officer trying to lock the POS up. If my family member was actually the one running and they injured or killed themselves or someone else, they deserve everything they get because they know better. You wouldn't see me on TV whining "He was a good kid...sniff, sniff...I don't know why the cops HAD to chase him." I WOULD be supporting the police. I don't believe decent people run from the po-po. People in today's society have no sense of personal responsibilty.

[Schupo]

What you are forgetting, or maybe willfully ignoring, is that all those burglars, drug dealers, and other violent criminals that you want police to concentrate on actually drive vehicles to and from their crimes. Trust me on this; they don't take the bus. The cars they drive may very well be stolen, but they do not take public transportation. So when they do something stupid in traffic, like maybe fail to yield right-of-way to you on your bike, and an officer attempts to stop them, some of them take off at high speed. They are running and endangering the public, not because they're trying to avoid a traffic citation, but because they have felony warrants for possibly violent crimes, or because they have drugs or contraband in their car, or because they have evidence of a serious crime in or on their car. (I know of one where the suspect had a body in the trunk.) They don't run from the cops because they have a burned-out tail light. I am fortunate to work for a department whose top-level administration openly states that we are in the apprehension business. We have a stringent pursuit policy that places a huge responsibility on the officer(s) and their supervisor for the safety of the public. To me, as a supervisor, a pursuit means a lot of work. I have to analyze all the video tapes, debrief my crew, develop new tactics if necessary, and sometimes initiate additional training for involved officers. But we definitely chase the bad guys. We run then down, we spike them, we PIT them, we TASE them, and we send K-9's after them when they run on foot. My crew receives training annually in high-speed pursuit driving, in the deployment of spike strips, and in the application of PIT, as well as other crucial skills. My people are good at what they do. On many occasions I have heard a suspect, as he/she is being cuffed, grumble something about "that was illegal; you aren't supposed to chase me." So you can see what these "no pursuit" policies are telling the criminal element. I always welcome these arrestees to my community and wish them a pleasant stay in our jail.

[SageRider]

What you are forgetting.......wish them a pleasant stay in our jail.

 

(and thank you!)

[Stir]

... I always welcome these arrestees to my community and wish them a pleasant stay in our jail.

 

Mental note to self. Slow down in Puget Sound.

[DouglasR]

They don't run from the cops because they have a burned-out tail light.

 

Exactly! The busiest East-West Interstate in the system, I-80, runs through Southern Wyoming. The WHP routinely pull idiots over that are speeding or driving erratically only to find all manner of illegal contraband being transported. The WHP have made some huge drug busts and tagged some seriously bad folks (murderers, etc.) for simple traffic violations. Some have involved high speed chases, spiking, whatever it takes. One officer pulled a guy over on I-80 near Arlington (middle of nowhere, late at night) and the guy opened up on the officer with an AK47 submachine gun. The WHP was hit but smoked the guy with his M16. Good riddance, and thank you officer. Sometimes the gene pool needs a good dose of chlorine.

 

I respect the good folks of this world that abide by the law and cause no harm to others, and I try to live that way myself. I confess I drive pretty fast sometimes, but always on the open road and not in a manner that will endanger some innocent driver. Never in a subdivision or city street. If caught I won't buck a ticket. I have ultimate respect for the good folks who administer and enforce the laws that allow me to lead my peaceful life. Hats off to all law enforcement people, fire fighters, etc. that keep our lives safe.

 

"Book 'em, Danno!"

[YamadogR1]

I am not condoning running from the police but this country's fascination with getting speeders is absolutely hilarious. Having lived and ridden in Germany where unless you are in town or constuction sites, speed is usely what is safe and prudent our country is a joke. Where the problem is we refuse to deal with DUI,cell phone blabbering idiots, unsafe vehicles and little to no motorcycle rider training. To hear some of you guys talk, we ought to just let the cop hood those horrible speeders up to the juice drip right on the side of the highway. Why don't we just fly the judge in on a chopper and get it over with right there. A lot of the speeding racket is about generating revenue for the state and the insurance companies and has little to do with the enforcment of safety. If we were truly interested in safety we would get the drunks off the road. The Germans could drink 99% of us under the table but they don't drive their vehicles drunk. The Polizei are really nice guys but don't get under the skin. They will make an American cop look like a choir boy.

[Schupo]

As you can tell by my name, I am of German heritage, I speak German (and French), I have friends and relatives in Germany who are police officers, and I most recently spent a day at the Polizeischule Hessen in Wiesbaden talking shop with my German counterparts. I agree with you that most Europeans are much better drivers than most Americans. However, I think you should be very careful about making rash, uninformed generalizations. Germany most certainly has speed limits. Their traffic enforcement units use the same radars and laser equipment that American officers do. In fact they have SPEED CAMERAS so that you can get your citation from a stinking robot! Their enforcement is generally not only more rigorous but, in my opinion, petty. Get yourself stopped for 110km in a 100km zone and see what happens. I don't know a single American officer who would write you for 6.2 mph over -- that is considered cheesy by most real cops here. Watch what happens in Germany when the limit on the Autobahn drops from 140 to 120 km: Drivers actually hit their brakes instead of coasting to the lower speed. They actually waste fuel and brake pads because the cops over there actually cite for that. I respect my counterparts in other countries; they enforce their laws within the social and cultural context of their countries. So do we. Don't knock America because you got a few speeding tickets. Take your bike to a track day and ride sensibly on the street.

[motorman587]

I used to be like that also. Chase them until the wheels falls off, but now that I have my twins daughters there is no need for speed to catch the bad guy. There is no need to run 100 mph to calls and of couse I am not stupid, there would be reasons to do so, as officer down etc....... But I can tell that most person that flee and it has been show that most folks that flee is for licenses. I remember when our department went to no chase policy, we still are catching the bad guy, without the high speed. Just have do a little hard work and I know in my town my little girls are safe from high speed pursuits.

 

BTW, I am half German, spent 23 years in Germany, little town called Fulda, where I was born. I understand the laws in Germany and yes the Germany police are very well respected. In fact when I was a rookie cop and shocked me how people talk back to officers, in Germany you never did that, or I never did that. I was only stopped twice my the German police. But because of my childhood I was also taught to respect the uniform. My dad was a LTC in Army at the time. I have heard that Gremany is not the same as the last 15 to 20 years ago. Sad.

[YamadogR1]

As you can tell by my name, I am of German heritage, I speak German (and French), I have friends and relatives in Germany who are police officers, and I most recently spent a day at the Polizeischule Hessen in Wiesbaden talking shop with my German counterparts. I agree with you that most Europeans are much better drivers than most Americans. However, I think you should be very careful about making rash, uninformed generalizations. Germany most certainly has speed limits. Their traffic enforcement units use the same radars and laser equipment that American officers do. In fact they have SPEED CAMERAS so that you can get your citation from a stinking robot! Their enforcement is generally not only more rigorous but, in my opinion, petty. Get yourself stopped for 110km in a 100km zone and see what happens. I don't know a single American officer who would write you for 6.2 mph over -- that is considered cheesy by most real cops here. Watch what happens in Germany when the limit on the Autobahn drops from 140 to 120 km: Drivers actually hit their brakes instead of coasting to the lower speed. They actually waste fuel and brake pads because the cops over there actually cite for that. I respect my counterparts in other countries; they enforce their laws within the social and cultural context of their countries. So do we. Don't knock America because you got a few speeding tickets. Take your bike to a track day and ride sensibly on the street.

You missed the total point. You do not drive around Germany with an unsafe vehicle, bald tires and you won't drive drunk for long, wandering down the autobahn in the left lane babbling on your cell phone in the left lane. You also do not get to buy a powerful bike as your first bike and training is mandatory, not suggested. Kee your preaching about where I ride my bike to yourself.

[RT_Pilot]

This is the age old argument of our time. I’ll tell you one thing, if California passed a law not to chase at high speed when I was (punk) kid on my Yamee, I would have run EVERY TIME!!! Duh!

 

It was knowing the cops would chase me that got me to pull over, without that I would have been over a 100MPH ever time…

 

So with this embarrassing confession, what do you think is safer, chasing down the occasional idiot that runs, or having everyone you light-up run knowing you won’t chase them?

 

Oh and as mentioned, Motorola wins the race more than not and nobody gets away for a Bell 207 either…

 

Remember most that run are running for a reason, not to get out of a ticket, but because they have a warrant (perhaps involving a major felony)or carrying drugs or a gun. “Yes Mrs. Johnson its true we had your daughter’s rapist in our sites before he killed your kid, but he ran, and we can’t chase him… sorry”

 

Before you riddle me with hate mail, I have been the chaser as well. I was a daring kid, but I have no record to this day. Had lots of tickets though, then I grew up and haven’t been ticketed in over 10 years.

[RT_Pilot]

I used to be like that also. Chase them until the wheels falls off,

 

After a while you learn to not chase them, but just follow them to the scene of the crash…

[motorman587]

So are your saying your are rapists???

[RT_Pilot]

So are your saying your are rapists???

 

Not sure where this is coming from but no. Context context context… I have to know where you drew that from though?

 

The people who run knowing the cops will chase them maybe bad people, not me… I MAY have run if I knew the cops WOULDN’T have chased me.

[motorman587]

I scewed up. I thought you said that you ran all the time sorry. I got another thread going that is taking a lot of my mind, sorry.

[Trucker Kev]

Funny, talk of LEO's coupled with a motorcycle board usually results in a volatile combination. Why?

 

Hopefully I’m not beating a dead horse, but I feel like adding to this madness. I’m in the business of chasing bad guys too, and I have done it more than once. One pursuit (not one of mine) was the result of an attempted stop by a motor officer for a pick-up truck that was passing stopped freeway traffic on the right shoulder. The truck exited the freeway, and within two blocks ran a red light and T-boned another vehicle, then continued. The motor officer did not know it at the time, but the person in the other vehicle was killed. The truck eventually stopped due to its damage from the collision. The motor officer rolled to a stop (read stalled) while concurrently drawing his .40 caliber. The dirtbag was taken into custody. Turns out he was violating his parole by being drunk, in possession of drugs, etc, etc.

 

The man killed was the brother of a local police officer. That police officer was on duty and he was one of the first ones at the scene. He later thanked the motor officer from my department for catching the dirtbag.

 

In this world, there are Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs.

 

This article says it all.

 

http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

 

P.S. We got a successful prosecution on the dirt bag for MURDER.

 

Thanks, Kevin

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According to Cycle World, Oklahoma State Police are getting Hayabusas. The civilian models are speed limited to about 185 mph. I don't know if the police models will have the limiters. The Motor Officers are being trained at Pacific Superbike School. Anyone know how to apply for a job with OSP? Is a Hayabusa faster than a Motorola?

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Is a Hayabusa faster than a Motorola?