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Riding Motorcycles During the COVID-19 Pandemic Part II

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In this new video, I discuss common arguments about riding motorcycles during the #COVID-19 pandemic, and rational rebuttals to them. If you are in a COVID-19 hotspot and on the fence about riding, or trying to convince a friend or loved one to stop riding until the crisis subsides, this video may be helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ycd011AIs

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TEWKS

Persuasive talk! :thumbsup: I had to cringe when you climbed that ladder though. I have the same exact one at home and they're a little on the flexi side. I was up changing a light when yeah, it flexed. (operator error actually :grin:) I went down cracking a couple ribs. :P

 

Thanks again for the great info! :clap:

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Selden

Thanks, Moshe. I was wondering "WTF is the ladder for" until you got on the ladder. I'm not sure what's above riding at 9/10 on bald tires on a Friday night, but I'm glad you didn't go there. Maybe after a few beers would be the top rung.

 

I am fortunate enough not to live in NJ (or northern Delaware, where I was born and raised). I am still riding during the pandemic, and just got back from a FS fire road loop, sticking to the main roads, avoiding explorations, riding very carefully. Despite an unexpected detour after missing a turn, it was a great experience, especially FS-58, which followed a mountain stream with many rapids and small waterfalls.

 

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"Most infected town, in the most infected county, in the 2nd most infect state, in the most infected country in the world" hit home. I would argue that going in to Dahlonega to pick up some groceries at Walmart is riskier than today's ride — and not nearly as satisfying an experience. Approaching my 74th birthday, with a history of multiple hospitalizations for asthma and pneumonia, currently under treatment for bronchiectasis, if I catch it, I'm probably a dead man. I'd rather take my chances on Forest Service roads. 

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Selden
2 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

Persuasive talk! :thumbsup: I had to cringe when you climbed that ladder though. :clap:

 

A few years ago, Prudential Healthcare sent a visiting nurse to check on how we were doing. She had a heavy Long Island accent, a smoker's cough, and she advised "Stay off of laddahs." When a tree fell on our house, I completely ignored her advice.

 

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Rinkydink

I climbed telephone poles for 23 years. We had more injuries on ladders than using hooks (gaffs) by far. I hate ladders. They are somewhat safe if lashed correctly. 

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Hosstage

I'm on a step ladder every day for work, but I hate extension ladders. Dangerous as hell.

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Rougarou
2 hours ago, TEWKS said:

Persuasive talk! :thumbsup: I had to cringe when you climbed that ladder though. I have the same exact one at home and they're a little on the flexi side. I was up changing a light when yeah, it flexed. (operator error actually :grin:) I went down cracking a couple ribs. :P

 

Thanks again for the great info! :clap:

 

So that nifty green ladder does not like being stacked on paint cans on stairs, I know this for a fact.  And fiberglass does break and sheet rock does not stop a ladder from going through and that was the third time in this house that I've stacked paint cans to level the ladder, and it sorta wobbled an fell with me on the second to top rung and the ladder did break and I got to fall on the ladder and stairs in a sorta semi upside down manner and the bruise on my thigh showed up the next day fairly prevalent and the wife asked me what the ruckus was and I told her I fell and kinda put a hole in her sheetrock  that she would have  to patch,.....boy was she pissed about having to patch that hole. 

 

I did get another one, and I still stack paint cans when I'm too lazy to get the adjustable ladder out.

 

Oh, did someone mention ladder safety.......and I'm still doing my 100 mile commute.image.png.a5130d89f582cbfa6815ee0469e94211.png

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BamaJohn
12 hours ago, Selden said:

 

A few years ago, Prudential Healthcare sent a visiting nurse to check on how we were doing. She had a heavy Long Island accent, a smoker's cough, and she advised "Stay off of laddahs." When a tree fell on our house, I completely ignored her advice.

 

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I live in a log house in the woods and constantly worry about pine trees near the house (and oak trees; and hickory trees, etc)  I hope your damage was limited to roof and not structural!

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TEWKS

Here's a great stable little ladder. "The Little Giant" See what you started, Moshe...:grin:

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Rougarou
9 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

Here's a great stable little ladder. "The Little Giant" See what you started, Moshe...:grin:

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Ya, I have one like that, it's a Gorilla brand that I picked off of craigslist for $30.

 

Much better than paint cans.

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TEWKS

Thirty bucks! :thumbsup: We have them at work, they're probably the most used ladder on the trucks. :thumbsup:

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Endobob

@moshe_levy Thank you again for posting a second video - even better than the first one! :18: 

 I too have and highly recommend the  "Little Giant" ladders. 

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Hosstage

Little Giants should be called Finger Destroyers.

We can't use them at work, can't use aluminum ladders, they don't mix well with electricity. They also caused way too many hand injuries the short time they tried them in the field before the aluminum thing came up.

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TEWKS
9 hours ago, Hosstage said:

Little Giants should be called Finger Destroyers.

 

 

Yup, some moving parts involved but if you're carful...:5223:

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Selden
On 4/7/2020 at 5:49 AM, BamaJohn said:

I live in a log house in the woods and constantly worry about pine trees near the house (and oak trees; and hickory trees, etc)  I hope your damage was limited to roof and not structural!

 

We were incredibly lucky. Got a call from a neighbor at 0800, the day before we were to leave for California. Drove up, got out the chain saw to get the tree off the roof, bend tin down, and cover seams with duct tape. That repair lasted several months, until I could get someone in to replace the damaged metal roof panels.

 

There was zero structural damage, not even any cracked drywall inside. Apart from the roof, the only structural damage occurred when a local Amish carpenter came by and pulled on the release latch for the folding ladder, which collapsed and broke the front window. He replaced the window. Amos did not get the roof repair job....

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Hosstage

He probably should have gotten the job, no one was going to be more careful than he after that!

Reminds me of The World According to Garp. Looking at buying a house, when a small plane flies into it. He looks at the realtor and says, "I'll take it, what are the chances of another plane ever hitting this house again?"

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Selden

I've been thinking more about risk management. Granted, the number of contact hours are unequal, but I have sustained far more injuries over the past 60 years at home than while riding. Many of them could have been avoided had I observed ATGATT. Two years ago I got up in the middle of the night to pee, had an excruciating cramp, passed out, and hit the back of my head on a wall on my way to the floor, leaving a good size divot in the sheet rock. 

 

Everything has risks. Be careful everywhere, in every activity.

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Rinkydink
On 4/7/2020 at 9:45 PM, Hosstage said:

Little Giants should be called Finger Destroyers.

Quoting my homebuilder friend

 

”One must be smarter than the wood.”

I guess it could also apply to ladders

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ESokoloff

I’m considered an essential personal by my employer so I’ve been full time through this. 
 

I realize the repercussions of commuting via motorcycle have Exponentially increased but my risks have fallen DRASTICALLY.
(60 miles round trip via some of the busiest freeways in the nation).    


 

When was the last time the 405 freeway looked like this?

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ESokoloff

Moshe,

I should have added........

 

In no way I’m I saying your wrong in your decisions. 

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moshe_levy

The ladder thread is hilarious. You can probably see that as I climb the ladder I get more and more squeamish. I absolutely HATE heights. But it had to be done! ;-)

 

-MKL

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Rougarou
1 hour ago, moshe_levy said:

The ladder thread is hilarious. You can probably see that as I climb the ladder I get more and more squeamish. I absolutely HATE heights. But it had to be done! ;-)

 

-MKL

 

 

I'z hoping you woulda stood on the top cap!!,.....give it a try on a 12ft step ladder,.......woohoo!!

 

It's not the height that gets me, it's that sudden stop at the end prior to hitting terminal velocity.

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TEWKS

Yep, usually unplanned sudden stops don't end well! :5150:

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BamaJohn
On 4/9/2020 at 10:56 AM, Rinkydink said:

Quoting my homebuilder friend

 

”One must be smarter than the wood.”

I guess it could also apply to ladders

I have an early version of Werner ladder like the little giant...I know why they now add wheels to the things...mine is HEAVY!  (but versatile)

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Rougarou

Anyone need a ladder  Mebbee I should put it in my "passing on the deal" thread.

 

Gorilla Ladders 18 ft. Reach MPX Aluminum Multi-Position Ladder, 300 lbs. Load Capacity Type IA Duty Rating

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TEWKS

I put one in my “cart” earlier and just went to pay. Currently unavailable! :dopeslap: Should of known, good deals don’t hang around!

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Rougarou
4 hours ago, TEWKS said:

I put one in my “cart” earlier and just went to pay. Currently unavailable! :dopeslap: Should of known, good deals don’t hang around!

 

If you aint checking slickdeals daily (several times), you will miss out.

 

Gotta jump when something's published if'n you're really wanting it.

 

I generally hit the forums on slickdeals to read through, as that's where most will be before they hit the front page.

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TEWKS

Done deal, thank you my friend! :thumbsup:

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Rougarou
10 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

Done deal, thank you my friend! :thumbsup:

 

Glad to be of service.  If you're looking for anything else, let me know, I peruse the deal sights frequently.

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TEWKS

Will do! :thumbsup: I should probably thank Moshe too, for climbing that stepladder. ;) :grin: :thumbsup:

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TEWKS

As easy as that! :grin:

 

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TEWKS

She’s going to work like, right now! :D
 

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Rougarou
8 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

She’s going to work like, right now! :D
 

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So, you're sending the wife up the ladder to do the windows :18:  Good on ya!!!

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TEWKS

Yep, she’s good like that! :D Ah, I just realized the confusion...they don’t call ladders “she” down in NC? :dontknow: :grin:

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Rougarou
2 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

Yep, she’s good like that! :D Ah, I just realized the confusion...they don’t call ladders “she” down in NC? :dontknow: :grin:

 

No confusion, I really meant that you're gonna send the wife up the ladder ;)

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TEWKS

Nope, she’s out doing smart work. The windows are mine. :dopeslap::grin:

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TEWKS

Taking this a little further off topic but still ladder related. :grin: On my walk route, I pass by this house that an elder gent started painting last year. He was up on his ladder until he wasn’t. :eek: The house never got finished. :(

 

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Rougarou
8 minutes ago, TEWKS said:

Taking this a little further off topic but still ladder related. :grin: On my walk route, I pass by this house that an elder gent started painting last year. He was up on his ladder until he wasn’t. :eek: The house never got finished. :(

 

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He shoulda used paint cans

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TEWKS

Or a truck roof as a platform! ;) :grin:

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Matts_12GS
On 4/7/2020 at 6:45 AM, TEWKS said:

Here's a great stable little ladder. "The Little Giant" See what you started, Moshe...:grin:

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I love mine

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RandyShields

Since this has turned into a ladder thread, here's a little beauty.  I had a roofer show up in a pickup truck with no visible ladder, so I didn't know how he was going to get up on the roof until he pulled one of these out of the bed of his truck.  Very trick!  They are expensive but if you need to haul around a tall ladder without a rack, or don't have space for it in a garage, this is the way to go.  Fits in the trunk of a car too.  The embedded video shows how it works.  Skip to the 40 second mark to skip the base assembly to see it extend.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Telescoping-Extension-Multi-Purpose-Industrial-Extendable/dp/B07MX7MQGD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&hvadid=77859218118362&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=telescoping+ladder&qid=1597488573&sr=8-6&tag=mh0b-20

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Rougarou
4 hours ago, RandyShields said:

Since this has turned into a ladder thread, here's a little beauty.  I had a roofer show up in a pickup truck with no visible ladder, so I didn't know how he was going to get up on the roof until he pulled one of these out of the bed of his truck.  Very trick!  They are expensive but if you need to haul around a tall ladder without a rack, or don't have space for it in a garage, this is the way to go.  Fits in the trunk of a car too.  The embedded video shows how it works.  Skip to the 40 second mark to skip the base assembly to see it extend.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Telescoping-Extension-Multi-Purpose-Industrial-Extendable/dp/B07MX7MQGD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&hvadid=77859218118362&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=telescoping+ladder&qid=1597488573&sr=8-6&tag=mh0b-20

 

Sherwin-Williams generally has those in stock in their stores

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BamaJohn
On 4/24/2020 at 10:30 AM, TEWKS said:

Taking this a little further off topic but still ladder related. :grin: On my walk route, I pass by this house that an elder gent started painting last year. He was up on his ladder until he wasn’t. :eek: The house never got finished. :(

 

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Love the dueling mailboxes....

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Rougarou

Here's a nifty one

 

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I dig the corner brackets

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Selden

I'm OK with ladders and heights. When I was a kid, not so much, but riding motorcycles fixed that when I realized that going through a turn, nothing was holding me up except centrifugal force.

 

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