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Hati

A bit puzzled with this one. I got the exclamation mark between the two triangles on the LCD screen of my '06 without any other symbol on the LCD or any idiot lights. Both times I noticed it when I killed the engine from the handle bar switch while waiting at roadworks. I did not turn the ignition off, just killed the engine and flicked the switch back to "run" and did not start the bike again until it was time to go. I think it was around 5 minutes or less the time I spent waiting with the engine off. Not sure how quickly after stopping the engine did the exclamation mark appear. It disappears almost right away when I fire the bike up again.

 

The manual says the it comes on with low oil level but I did not get the accompanying oil warning light that the manual says should come on with.

 

Any clue what this?

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Rougarou

Check your sight glass on a level surface.

 

 This image.png.482d7ad505ed36629e31858b33c941d2.png is what you will receive when you have low volume of oil.

 

This image.png.5b1886ecfc3c3ec5e3e615e5aeeb34a9.png is for low oil pressure.

 

The only real way to check if you have proper amount of oil is the sight glass.

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Hati

First thing I did was check the oil level. On the centre stand it is smack in the middle of  the glass. The manual says that for low level oil, the exclamation mark comes on with the oil pressure light. For low oil pressure, the light comes on by itself. This is what got me confused...

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Rougarou

Could just be part of the bike computer thing from killing it and not turning the key off. 

 

For engine oil checks, I believe that the engine has to be running and you'd get that "oil checkmark" notice as well.

 

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dirtrider
7 hours ago, Hati said:

A bit puzzled with this one. I got the exclamation mark between the two triangles on the LCD screen of my '06 without any other symbol on the LCD or any idiot lights. Both times I noticed it when I killed the engine from the handle bar switch while waiting at roadworks. I did not turn the ignition off, just killed the engine and flicked the switch back to "run" and did not start the bike again until it was time to go. I think it was around 5 minutes or less the time I spent waiting with the engine off. Not sure how quickly after stopping the engine did the exclamation mark appear. It disappears almost right away when I fire the bike up again.

 

The manual says the it comes on with low oil level but I did not get the accompanying oil warning light that the manual says should come on with.

 

Any clue what this?

 

Morning Hati

 

Was the "exclamation mark between the two triangles" red or yellow? This makes a difference in what it was & how important it is.

 

Are you sure that no symbol  was showing in the multi-function screen (like a battery icon or engine electronics icon, or oil icon? (note: multi-function screen can have a lot of things showing so seeing something new there might have been missed)

 

With key ON & engine stalled (not running) you have low oil pressure, low alternator charging, & engine electronics is not getting an ignition signal so any one of those could be showing on the lower multi-function  screen.

 

In any case getting the "exclamation mark between the two triangles" warning with key ON & engine stalled is normal as you do have low oil pressure,  low alternator charging,  & no running ignition signal to your BMS-K.

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Hati
1 minute ago, dirtrider said:

 

Morning Hati

 

Was the "exclamation mark between the two triangles" red or yellow? This makes a difference in what it was & how important it is.

 

Neither. it was on the LCD screen (multi function display), so it was monochrome.

 

1 minute ago, dirtrider said:

 

Are you sure that no symbol  was showing in the multi-function screen (like a battery icon or engine electronics icon, or oil icon? (note: multi-function screen can have a lot of things showing so seeing something new there might have been missed)

 

100% sure. The exclamation mark was present for virtually the entire time the bike was stationary with the engine stopped, but ignition still on, after pulling up to the roadworks stop signals. Loads of time to look for any additional icon coming on with the exclamation mark on the multifunction screen, but none showed.

 

1 minute ago, dirtrider said:

 

With key ON & engine stalled (not running) you have low oil pressure, low alternator charging, & engine electronics is not getting an ignition signal so any one of those could be showing on the lower multi-function  screen.

 

In any case getting the "exclamation mark between the two triangles" warning with key ON & engine stalled is normal as you do have low oil pressure,  low alternator charging,  & no running ignition signal to your BMS-K.

 

Come to think of this last sentence, I don't recall ever expecting to be stationary for long enough on this bike to warrant turning off the engine until the last couple of days, so never experienced turning the engine off from the kill switch. I normally turn off the ignition.

 

I''ll check this again tomorrow. thanks for the tip.

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dirtrider

Morning Hati 

 

Neither. it was on the LCD screen (multi function display), so it was monochrome.-- This makes a difference, I thought your   exclamation mark was showing in the upper dash screen? 

 

If the exclamation mark was in the lower milti-function screen then it was probably the low oil level warning. That warning does require a warm engine (you had that) but also requires an idling engine for at least 10 seconds (you didn't have that) so as long as the warning goes away when you restart then you are good to go. 

 

It also requires an upright motorcycle, was your bike on the side stand at the time or was it upright?

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Corazon de Pollo

It's one of the many "glitches" I have had with my Hexhead central LCD display, albeit not as common as the ESA! warning on startup.

 

I've never found a reason for those random error messages and to be honest they were so random and rare happenings I just turned a blind eye: if you oil level is fine and you don't get any more messages just ignore it.

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dirtrider
22 minutes ago, Corazon de Pollo said:

It's one of the many "glitches" I have had with my Hexhead central LCD display, albeit not as common as the ESA! warning on startup.

 

I've never found a reason for those random error messages and to be honest they were so random and rare happenings I just turned a blind eye: if you oil level is fine and you don't get any more messages just ignore it.

 

Morning Corazon de Pollo

 

I haven't ever seen an ESA (electronic suspension adjustment) warning show on the multi function screen, didn't know that one was even possible or a place on the screen for it. 

 

Are you by chance referring to an  EWS (electronic immobilizer) warning not an ESA warning?

 

Or possibly a  DWA (anti-theft) warning. 

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Corazon de Pollo
19 hours ago, dirtrider said:

 

Morning Corazon de Pollo

 

I haven't ever seen an ESA (electronic suspension adjustment) warning show on the multi function screen, didn't know that one was even possible or a place on the screen for it. 

 

Are you by chance referring to an  EWS (electronic immobilizer) warning not an ESA warning?

 

Or possibly a  DWA (anti-theft) warning. 

 

No DR, it's was on the central LCD screen. It only came up when pushing the starter motor and then only rarely. The dealer's diagnostic system found no code had been stored and ESA always worked as intended so we put it down to some to some startup voltage hijinks.

I haven't got that bike anymore so I cannot replicate the issue, but it was displayed for a few seconds in the top half of the screen.

Besides random warnings I also experienced severe swings in the fuel level indicator three times. Never seen anything like it on any other vehicle. For once the fuel stripe wasn't to blame and when the bike was total'd it was still on the original one.

 

Given the costs of a replacement instrument cluster I never investigated the issue... it was more of a nuisance than anything else.

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Hati
On 3/22/2020 at 9:36 PM, dirtrider said:

If the exclamation mark was in the lower milti-function screen then it was probably the low oil level warning. That warning does require a warm engine (you had that) but also requires an idling engine for at least 10 seconds (you didn't have that) so as long as the warning goes away when you restart then you are good to go. 

 

It also requires an upright motorcycle, was your bike on the side stand at the time or was it upright?

 

I haven't had a chance to check again yet, maybe this weekend. I will update the thread then.

 

The bike was upright, not on the stand. Thanks again for the assistance DR!

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Sonor

Funny, I never thought of it as an exclamation mark.  It always looks like a GPS symbol for Hospital.  :4322:

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Hati

LOL @Sonor It does remind of that indeed...

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