Whip Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 It is all about preserving rubber instead of racing. I think the races would be much more entertaining if they were 25% shorter. @chrisolson 1 Link to comment
chrisolson Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 They went through the same issue in F1racing .... preserve the tires instead of racing. New compounds for this season but they still need to manage them to last a session. Don't know that there is a perfect tire as the rider/driver has the ultimate choice to use or abuse the amount of grip as required. Link to comment
Skywagon Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 an opposing view.....I wish they were much longer such that they had to come in for fuel and tires once. Marquez's crash was right in front of our seats this year.... Link to comment
Whip Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 I don’t want it to turn into NASCAR where pit stops and luck are more important than who is the fastest. I want the faster rider to win. 1 Link to comment
eddd Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Shortening the race would seem to set up everyone just running stickier/shorter-life tires. You'd need some type of regulation that mandates the tires everyone would need to use, but the different bikes use up the tires/available traction at differing rates. With designated tires you've taken away from the bikes that don't use up the tires as quickly. At the top level I think you need to let the teams come up with the combination that is best for them. Link to comment
Antimatter Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Well, WSBK is running a 10-lap sprint race as part of a three-race weekend. Or you could watch the race on fast-forward. Link to comment
Jerry Duke Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 1:38 PM, Skywagon said: an opposing view.....I wish they were much longer such that they had to come in for fuel and tires once. Marquez's crash was right in front of our seats this year.... I would like to see a mandatory pit. Change tires and refuel. Still keep the length to 20 - 25 laps. Link to comment
Bill_Walker Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Whether on two wheels or four, strategy has always been a part of road racing, and managing your engine, tires and fuel is part of that strategy. Many (most?) spectators/viewers appreciate and understand it. Doing it well is part of what makes a good racer. Kevin Cameron had a good take on this: https://www.cycleworld.com/is-motogp-just-tire-racing?cmpid=ene20190324&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&cid=53624&mid=473024990 Michelin is the sole supplier for MotoGP. Regulations could easily require tires that would go the distance without degradation. Why don't they? Because the tires would be very hard, with much lower grip, and the riders would complain about them endlessly, which isn't good for the tire maker's image. And they might actually be more dangerous due to lower grip. Further, race length is partially determined by TV coverage. 30 minutes isn't enough, so a race has to fill 60 or 90 minutes. And the local spectators, given what tickets cost, would howl if the races were shorter. Link to comment
lkchris Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 3:05 AM, Whip said: It is all about preserving rubber instead of racing. I think the races would be much more entertaining if they were 25% shorter. @chrisolson Yet the front guys ... preserving rubber ... are way ahead of the rest of the guys. And most often the "rest of the guys" includes teammates on the same bike as their front guy teammate. It's racing and imho the most interesting and exciting motor racing on the planet just as it is. 1 Link to comment
TestPilot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Bernie Ecclestone once commented that he wanted shorter F1 races because Americans' attention spans were too short. 1 Link to comment
Bill_Walker Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Here's another good article by Cameron on riding style vs. bike design, and how to spot who's doing what, and why: https://www.cycleworld.com/making-sense-what-motorcycle-roadracers-do-on-track?cmpid=ene20190423&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&cid=56639&mid=504280413#page-3 Link to comment
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