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BendBill

BMW Escondido has this nice used 2017 with 2980+ miles for $15,995 OTD--13 months on warranty. See film from Stir. http://funwithmikeandjamie.com/BikeRide01092019.mp4

 

 

OR BMW of Western Oregon with a used 2018 with 3 miles for $18,700 OTD--34 months on warranty https://www.emcwor.com/Pre-owned-Inventory-2018-BMW-Motorcycle-Scooter-R-1200-RT-Carbon-Black-Metallic-Premium-6540807?ref=list

 

 

 

I chose one over the other, but I can see many riders going the other way

 

Bill

 

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Pickaxe

Definitely option 2 for me.

 

I presume it's only used by virtue of being pre registered?

 

It's virtually brand new with almost 3 times more warranty.

 

The extra money isn't massive.

 

The model year is the last of the 1200s

 

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TEWKS

You made the right choice in my book. Kudos to Michael for his thorough effort put out on the other choice! :clap:

 

 

Pat

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Bob H.

Definitely the 2018RT ! Only 3 miles must be a typo error maybe 300 or 3,000 miles if pre owned. If the mileage is only 3 miles I doubt that it is preowned and your warranty will be 36 months or 36,000 miles which ever comes first.

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Rider1200RT

Option 2. Longer warranty less miles..YMMV

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Skywagon

highly skeptical #2 has 3 miles due to several after market adds. Must be 3000. new tire nubs gone and exhaust has a bit of the brown... Buy the one you like best.

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BendBill

I understand the feeling there's a mistake on the mileage. Except there isn't.

 

However, there is an interesting 2-part backstory to the tale of my choice, the 2018 black:

 

part 1--A buyer in my town of Bend, Oregon, bought the ride in Nov. He had it trailered to his place [ I'm guessing the westside.] He had someone else receive it at his place. It stayed in his garage, where he or some other mystery person applied the carbon fiber film, which the dealership *thinks* is from Wunderlich. Someone else installed the Akrapovic exhaust. Buyer called the dealership several days ago and asked for it to be returned by trailer transport. It had never been ridden. I keep imagining that the mystery person is somewhere muttering, "BMW . . . . Rosebud"

 

part 2----Ready for this part? : It's the 4th motorcycle that mystery buyer has bought and returned. I haven't been able to verify yet from the sales staff, but this ride MUST be the lowest-mile return yet. It's gotta be a record.

 

Which leaves me with 2 remaining questions:

 

1--Doesn't anyone think the white 2017 is still a great--even a better-- buy? I debated with myself but honestly thought more riders who know how to wrench would have chosen the white 2017. And I will say again that Rudy at BMW Escondido was a pleasure to work with; I'm sorry I did not buy his offering. However the 2018 black struck me as way better for resale and warranty even though I prefer the looks of the white

 

2--I wonder if some riders may call the dealership and ask to be put on the call "LIST" for any future purchases by our mystery buyer :-)

 

NOTE-- after re-reading David/skywagon's comment on tire nubs, I confess I'm out of my league on tire wear. I just ask why a buyer would go to such lengths to conceal mileage and how the dealer service dept would have missed it.

 

 

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RTinNC

Both are good deals but I agree with most of the other responses .... if you can afford the 2018 that would be the one! For all the reasons already stated.

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AndyS
... person applied the carbon fiber film, which the dealership *thinks* is from Wunderlich.

 

Sorry I missed that bit. Where is this 'carbon film' applied?

 

And without a doubt, the 2018 has to be the bike to go for. Don't leave it long or it'll be gone!

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Limecreek

BMW of Austin still had a 2018 red fully loaded RT on the floor 2 weeks ago for $15,800 OTD. Might be worth a call to save $3K for a brand new bike.

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BendBill

Andy S, I cannot attach an image because I do not have a website. If you shoot me an e-mail to bbuck@cocc.edu, I can easily attach pics in reply

 

Limecreek: 15.8? Gasp! I called BMW of Austin. They had TWO reds for 15.8 OTD. Now sold. If you go up on the website, you'll see a white for 14.594. It sold yesterday. They don't have any more 2018 wetheads below 19.7.

BTW, Sonny Johns at BMW Austin is a nice guy and very helpful

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strataj

BMW had a $2,000 cash back, that expired January 2, 2019 that must of effected the prices from the Austin dealer.

 

Jay

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Limecreek
BMW had a $2,000 cash back, that expired January 2, 2019 that must of effected the prices from the Austin dealer.

 

Jay

 

I'm sure that was part of it. The bike's MSRP is $23K, so it was discounted >$7K. They have a lot of BMW 2018 inventory to move and the 2019's are arriving.

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Bill_Walker
part 1--A buyer in my town of Bend, Oregon, bought the ride in Nov. He had it trailered to his place [ I'm guessing the westside.] He had someone else receive it at his place. It stayed in his garage, where he or some other mystery person applied the carbon fiber film, which the dealership *thinks* is from Wunderlich. Someone else installed the Akrapovic exhaust. Buyer called the dealership several days ago and asked for it to be returned by trailer transport. It had never been ridden. I keep imagining that the mystery person is somewhere muttering, "BMW . . . . Rosebud"

 

part 2----Ready for this part? : It's the 4th motorcycle that mystery buyer has bought and returned. I haven't been able to verify yet from the sales staff, but this ride MUST be the lowest-mile return yet. It's gotta be a record.

 

I have to wonder whether this is some kind of money-laundering scheme.

 

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Skywagon

Bill...whether you buy the white one or the black one doesn't really matter. When I bought mine new I paid many thousands more than both of those so either way value to the dollar you are getting what seems like a really nice deal. Don't be afraid of these wetheads they have been awesome. Im at 20,000 now and I have yet to burn a single drop of oil whether I ride hard or like a turtle. The mileage is great, they handle well, they are loaded with features, and they are stink faster than all prior RT's. You are going to love it after you adjust to the change. Start practicing smiling.

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BendBill

Great note, David.

 

I already trust the wetheads due to all the positive reviews on this site. Responses to my questions from other riders have convinced me that 3 problems of my 03 1150---1--oil burning; 2-- pttr; and 3--early failures of engine and drivetrain--none of these issues crop up in any serious way on the LC.

 

I have always missed the telelever front suspension and look forward to that feature again.

 

And I know I lucked out on pricing with a 6.8K drop. I am surprised by how frequently 5K discounts crop up if one is willing to pay transport or do a fly-and-ride in warmer climes. Must be the combo of winter and a model changeover year

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RTinNC
Great note, David.

 

I already trust the wetheads due to all the positive reviews on this site. Responses to my questions from other riders have convinced me that 3 problems of my 03 1150---1--oil burning; 2-- pttr; and 3--early failures of engine and drivetrain--none of these issues crop up in any serious way on the LC.

 

I have always missed the telelever front suspension and look forward to that feature again.

 

And I know I lucked out on pricing with a 6.8K drop. I am surprised by how frequently 5K discounts crop up if one is willing to pay transport or do a fly-and-ride in warmer climes. Must be the combo of winter and a model changeover year

 

Bill .... I had a 2002 R1150GS and had no issues whatsoever so surprised you had such bad experience with your 1150. Mine was rock solid and no oil burning, no surging, no engine or final drive issues. But then all of my BMW's have pretty much been trouble free. The wetheads are no different.

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BendBill

I partly agree with you, Ed. Most 1150 riders never had breakdowns, but I had two. The experience, along with bad press from the 2007 IBA Rally and a 2008 MCN magazine article critical of BMW, prompted me onto my Honda ST1300.

 

However, I always followed BMW, hoping to hear of positive reviews, and continued to ride to Torrey and Weaverville meets because BMW riders are a great group-- and near my age :-)

 

In the last several years with the wetheads, positive reviews have streamed out consistently, so I'm jumping back in with open eyes and renewed confidence. I expect to be a gladder and a wiser man.

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mbelectric

Bill,

 

See you in Weaverville on the new wethead. 😎

 

MB>

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BendBill

I'm planning on it, mb

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Motobricker

Bill, I would say either one is a good deal. I waited 5 months for my 719 Blue Planet 2018, worth every day of wait. My price from Tigard was easy $10,000 higher. I also saw a 719 in Eugene in Nov with 200 miles on it, similar thing as your black one. wish I had waited could have saved at least $5,000. Oh no I don't wish I had waited, I put 8500 on my 18 this summer. By the way before I bought the RTW, I rode a FJR, KTM something, Concours and the ST. None fit as well as the RTW. You will enjoy either one.

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tallman

Hmmm, we put more than 3 miles on with PDI and gas fill up.

 

I guess one could ask to skip.

 

But, seems like we were one of the only dealers to actually PDI bike with customers and then afterward go through manual, bike set up and operation, have all customer forms signed, etc.

According to BMW everyone was supposed to.

 

Both good prices.

Get whatcha like.

Best wishes.

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