anubisss Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hi all. New here. Can;t get validated on S1000XR forum. It seems it takes an act of god to get approved by an admin. Thus all my questions are related to taht bike. Is there a subsection here for taht bike? IF so point in teh right direction please. I'm new to BMW's so that would be great. Thanks Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hi there, specific talk on the S1000XR is probably a bit limited here just because there's not a lot of members that own that bike, AFAIK. But, we'll certainly let you be the first! Pictures required! Pat Link to comment
anubisss Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Once I pick it up pics will be available. Trying to research before I lay down the green. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) I've heard they have a bit of a buzz at certain RPMs. Haven't had the chance to ride though. Pat Edited February 9, 2017 by TEWKS Link to comment
anubisss Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Can't be bad compared to my 124 Harley. Link to comment
bdfbeemer Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Great bike. Buzz is overstated. Great engine and transmission. I didn't have any problem getting on the forum. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Can't be bad compared to my 124 Harley. It'd probably look something like this. BMW S1000XR 124 Harley Disclaimer...I've owned a Harley since 86 and happen to like them a lot. Being a new guy I didn't want to give you the impression of Harley bashing in my joke. Now, that just took all the fun out of it! Pat Link to comment
randy Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have been looking at the S100r and the XR. The XR is taller, and has nice bags. I know BMW has long term plans to replace the R1200GS with the XR platform, but if you going to do some off-road riding, I am not sure the XR is ready for that. the KTM and GS still seem to have a significant lead over the XR in the off-road capabilities. I have only taken the XR for one short test ride, and on the pavement it was very nice. I did feel some vibration on the XR that was not felt on the S1000R. My test ride vehicle was not as bad as some reports have stated. I believe in 2016 or 2017 model they added a rubber dampening part to the handle bars. I believe it can be retro fitted to earlier bikes. Link to comment
marcopolo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) ...I know BMW has long term plans to replace the R1200GS with the XR platform... Do tell!! I believe in 2016 or 2017 model they added a rubber dampening part to the handle bars... As I understand it, BMW did something for model-year 2017 bikes to address the buzz in the bars Edited February 9, 2017 by marcopolo Link to comment
randy Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Certainly it has never been announced. But ever since the S1000RR came out there has been lots of discussion about the long term viability of the boxer engine. Water Cooling has certainly extended the life cycle of the boxer engine. but with more and more stringent emissions controls forthcoming, I just wonder if the boxer engine has another 10 years. On the other hand I believe I read that the 1000 engine is already Euro 2020 compliant. Link to comment
tallman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 One word. K 75 Remember when? Same idea, replace boxer. K bikes were excellent, but boxer persevered. With boxer sales around the world being what they are, and GS being what is is, would take some real hocus pocus, IMO, to eliminate the boxer. Not saying it won't happen, but it would have to be regulated into oblivion, I think... Link to comment
realshelby Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 With water cooling there is no reason a Boxer can't meet future emissions standards. Peak power may be different as the port angles have always been a compromise. The one advantage a 4 cylinder may have in emissions is the smaller combustion chambers. There are still reasons a flat twin, four, or six cylinder engine is a good design for certain applications. I think a 1000cc flat four would be something I would buy over the Boxer as we have it now. Really wouldn't be hard to make a compact flat four, water cooling fixes the rear cylinder temperature issues. The original Gold Wing flat four was quite a nice engine. Link to comment
Dennis Andress Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 .... I'd be happy with a 900cc version of the wethead engine... Link to comment
Paul De Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 BMW tried to kill off the boxer motor in the 80s when they introduced the first K models...and a poo storm from the market caused BMW to reversed course. It is akin to HD killing off the V twin, Coke changing the shape of the bottle, McDonalds dumping the Big Mac...well maybe not the last one. I would likely not have bought a BMW if the wet head was not in the line-up. Particularly if they were competing in the sport touring segment with a high $$$ version of a UJM in line 4. Link to comment
92Merc Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 While a boxer design won't have quite the power curve an inline 4 has, there is no reason a boxer can't be designed to accomplish emissions. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) [quoting=roadscholar] I would bet what would seem obvious to most, wouldn't be the more valuable one parked in your garage? Pat Edited February 11, 2017 by TEWKS Link to comment
roadscholar Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Good observation Pat. In the mid 70's I had two '69 911S's at the same time. Paid 2500 for one (completely disassembled) and 3500 for the other (crack in one cylinder wall but running), repaired both and sold 'em for around 5500. each : ) A 2017 Carrera S is about 100k, a nice 69 or 70 S today goes for around 135k. That particular one went for a bit more.. yikes! http://www.rmsothebys.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057342 Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 That particular one went for a bit more.. yikes! http://www.rmsothebys.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057342 Holy smokes, had no idea they were fetching that kind of money! E Oh, I now see who sat behind the wheel of that car probably boosting its value considerably. Pat Link to comment
Dave_in_TX Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 While a boxer design won't have quite the power curve an inline 4 has, there is no reason a boxer can't be designed to accomplish emissions. True, but a four cylinder boxer could easily match the power curve of an inline four. Link to comment
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