Joe Frickin' Friday Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Years ago I recall seeing the R1100RT attributed with a 0-60 time of about 4.3 seconds. I've never seen a time posted for the R1200RT hexhead (i.e. not the camhead or wethead). With 22% more horsepower and a smidge less weight than the 1100RT, my guess is that it comes in at about 4 seconds. Anyone seen any actual numbers (e.g. in professional reviews)? Link to comment
dirtrider Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Morning Mitch The Michigan State Police tests are usually the most accurate as they aren't selling motorcycles or appeasing advertisers like most magazine are. The problem with the MSP is they are/were testing RT-P bikes not civilian bikes. (Their stopping distance data is top notch) I can't give you official testing or even the 0-60 that you asked for but my personal 09 1200RT (hexhead) will give me 0-100mph (on GPS**) in the 7.6-8 second range but getting back-to-back verification readings was difficult as the launch is very difficult to duplicate & keep the front wheel down. I might have been able to lower the 0-100 just a bit if I used no-clutch full power upshifts but I didn't want to abuse my personal bike's transmission that way. (** )I didn't check or plot the GPS update lag but not much. Link to comment
John Bentall Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 According to the times in Motorrad Issue 01/2012. 0-62 in 3.9, 0-88 mph in 6.1, 0-125 mph 15.6. Hope this helps.... Link to comment
tallman Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 My '03 GT had (according to MCN) 0-60 time of 3.87 seconds. Many mags had it between 3.2 and 3.4ish. Glad the boxer is catching up. Link to comment
Skywagon Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I have a copy of the report Dirt is describing. This is what they publish for the PD 2014RT. Without the PD gear maybe a little faster, but doubt we could repeat as their skill level very high. Doesn't paste good but if you look closely 0-60 4.37 seconds. the chart shows 4 separate runs. If you would like a copy of the pdf send me private email address. BMW R1200 RTP BEGINNING TIME: 2:56 p.m. TEMPERATURE: 64.2° F WIND VELOCITY: 6.7 mph WIND DIRECTION: 332° SPEEDS TIME REQUIREMENTS* RUN 1 RUN 2 RUN 3 RUN 4 AVERAGE 0 – 60 9.0 sec. 4.39 4.40 4.38 4.29 4.37 0 – 80 14.9 sec. 6.79 6.89 6.76 6.74 6.80 0 – 100 24.6 sec. 10.69 11.09 10.62 10.75 10.79 DISTANCE TO REACH 110 MPH: .25 mile DISTANCE TO REACH 120 MPH: .54 mile TOP SPEED ATTAINED: 130 mp And P.S...guarantee top speed is greater than 130...not just by indicated but by back and forth runs on GPS multiple times. Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 I have a copy of the report Dirt is describing. This is what they publish for the PD 2014RT. Without the PD gear maybe a little faster, but doubt we could repeat as their skill level very high. Doesn't paste good but if you look closely 0-60 4.37 seconds. the chart shows 4 separate runs. If you would like a copy of the pdf send me private email address. BMW R1200 RTP BEGINNING TIME: 2:56 p.m. TEMPERATURE: 64.2° F WIND VELOCITY: 6.7 mph WIND DIRECTION: 332° SPEEDS TIME REQUIREMENTS* RUN 1 RUN 2 RUN 3 RUN 4 AVERAGE 0 60 9.0 sec. 4.39 4.40 4.38 4.29 4.37 0 80 14.9 sec. 6.79 6.89 6.76 6.74 6.80 0 100 24.6 sec. 10.69 11.09 10.62 10.75 10.79 DISTANCE TO REACH 110 MPH: .25 mile DISTANCE TO REACH 120 MPH: .54 mile TOP SPEED ATTAINED: 130 mp And P.S...guarantee top speed is greater than 130...not just by indicated but by back and forth runs on GPS multiple times. If I'm parsing that correctly, it should look like this: BMW R1200 RTP BEGINNING TIME: 2:56 p.m. TEMPERATURE: 64.2° F WIND VELOCITY: 6.7 mph WIND DIRECTION: 332° TIME SPEEDS REQUIREMENTS* RUN 1 RUN 2 RUN 3 RUN 4 AVERAGE 0–60 9.0 sec. 4.39 4.40 4.38 4.29 4.37 0–80 14.9 sec. 6.79 6.89 6.76 6.74 6.80 0–100 24.6 sec. 10.69 11.09 10.62 10.75 10.79 DISTANCE TO REACH 110 MPH: .25 mile DISTANCE TO REACH 120 MPH: .54 mile TOP SPEED ATTAINED: 130 mph Does that match what's in your report? If so, does that mean the MI state police would consider a bike with a 0-60 time of 9 seconds to be acceptable? Link to comment
greiffster Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 If so, does that mean the MI state police would consider a bike with a 0-60 time of 9 seconds to be acceptable? Yeah, that would be a low bar. My '86 Ford Escort did a 12.5 if I hammered it. Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 If so, does that mean the MI state police would consider a bike with a 0-60 time of 9 seconds to be acceptable? Yeah, that would be a low bar. My '86 Ford Escort did a 12.5 if I hammered it. Shoot, are there any bikes that don't do 0-60 in less than 9 seconds? Link to comment
Skywagon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/2015_MY_Police_Vehicle_Evaluation_Test_Book_Compressed_479059_7.pdf go to page 107 for the answer to your question... Link to comment
Ponch Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 LA Sheriffs do tests too. Mitch Nowlen seems to ride a little better than the others. At least in the past he has. http://shq.lasdnews.net/shq/vehicle_testing/2015%20MY%20Motocycle%20Test%20Book%20Final%20Draft%203-24-15%20ha-2.pdf Link to comment
Dave_zoom_zoom Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hi Guys Thanks for those very interesting evaluations. Very comprehensive! Can you tell us which bikes these two departments chose? Thanks Dave Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Michigan State Police have had HDs for a long time, but recently they picked up several R1200RTs; I've seen the latter on the road a couple of times in the past several years. Hi Guys Thanks for those very interesting evaluations. Very comprehensive! Can you tell us which bikes these two departments chose? Thanks Dave Michigan State Police have had HDs for a long time, but recently they picked up several R1200RTs; I've seen the latter on the road a couple of times in the past several years. Link to comment
Ponch Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Michigan State Police have had HDs for a long time, but recently they picked up several R1200RTs; I've seen the latter on the road a couple of times in the past several years.Hi Guys Thanks for those very interesting evaluations. Very comprehensive! Can you tell us which bikes these two departments chose? Thanks Dave Michigan State Police have had HDs for a long time, but recently they picked up several R1200RTs; I've seen the latter on the road a couple of times in the past several years. I am surprised about the HDs as it seems the RT-P aces the tests. Link to comment
tallman Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Haven't a clue how it is today, but, years ago HD did major conce$$ion$ to place their bikes. BMW didn't (to best of knowledge) cut the deals HD did, so regardless of performance, HD often won contracts. In the '90's and 2000's BMW started to win contracts based on performance/safety, officer input. We sold BMW's to 3 universities and multiple sheriff/police departments. Almost to a man, the officers preferred the beemers to the HD. Yet, somehow, with the door opened nationwide, the corporate position did not change. Eventually, based on our experiences, some agencies began to service bikes in house, rather that dealership and co$t factors began to favor HD (based on huge coporate incentives by HD). Could be much different now, yada yada. HD began to add ABS, basically give bikes away etc. so not surprising that BMW contracts lapsed and in many cases were HD conquests. (Essentially Honda/Kawi weren't serious players). Shame because at one point there was plenty of public interaction and visibility for BMW authority bikes, even in movies. Link to comment
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