temesvar Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Am new in the world of BMW motorcycles. Have had many other bikes, but time has come to fulfill a long time wish: to have and ride a boxer. So here i am getting ready to change the oil when time comes. Am tired of reading all about oils and filters, so there i made up my mind: Will spend the buck and get the Advantec oil 5w40. As for filter, opted for Hiflo, that is less than half the price of the OEM filter. I don't think there is much difference between them. Where i am stuck with is the CRUSH WASHER!!Why would the dealer ask $5 for one??? Is the logo engraved nicely all around it?? Am sure can find them as a dozen for less than that. So am wondering, is anybody paying the price for a OEM crush washer and why? Link to comment
EddyQ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 $5 sounds steep. My '07 RT's crush washer costs $0.83 at MAXBMW. Plus, I re-use it for several oil changes then replace. Link to comment
areyouolsen Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 God, no. beemerboneyard includes them with their oil change kit - comparable to anywhere else, cheaper if you buy in bulk. Link to comment
Skywagon Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 http://store.bobsbmw.com/microfiche/BrowseParts.aspx?GroupName=Engine&MBike=56210&GroupID=11 Seventy Seven Cents at most BMW dealers.... It doesn't show it on the oil filter picture. Scroll over until you see a full engine then click on that picture. Link to comment
temesvar Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 I wish i saved the email from the dealer with the prices. Was $4+, mind you, $Canadian. Even then, should not even have a price on itself. Triumph has them included in the filter box. I was shocked when i got the price. Link to comment
joeb Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 If I buy my filter from BMW, a washer comes with it. If I buy a Bosch filter from Walmart, I reuse my crush washer multiple times. Link to comment
Tourmaster Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Picked up a filter and crush washer for the R1150RT on the weekend, $29.75 CDN for the filter, a little steep, $1.00 CDN for the washer, not bad, at the local stealership...(Ottawa GoodTime Center). The bargain was the STABURAGS NBU 30 PTM spline grease, 50 gr tube for 35.00 bucks CDN. peanut8500 has it on Ebay for 30.50 USD + 9.50 USD Intl USPS...so 40.00 US for 30 gr + exchange @ ~1.40 = 56.00 CDN + whatever amount the customs folks would deem appropriate to hose me... Link to comment
ESokoloff Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Might find what you need here. Link to comment
hopz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I cannot resist commenting on the Oil Filter comment... If it were me, I would never try to save a few bucks on an oil filter. If the price at the dealership bothers you go to Beemer Boneyard. They have the same as OEM filters made by the guys who sell to BMW... at a lower cost. just my $0.02 Link to comment
tallman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I cannot resist commenting on the Oil Filter comment... If it were me, I would never try to save a few bucks on an oil filter. If the price at the dealership bothers you go to Beemer Boneyard. They have the same as OEM filters made by the guys who sell to BMW... at a lower cost. just my $0.02 This. DR coould pontificate better but it is what is inside and the design parameters that matter. I would never cut corners on an oil filter. .0274 Canadian. Link to comment
marcopolo Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I cannot resist commenting on the Oil Filter comment... If it were me, I would never try to save a few bucks on an oil filter. If the price at the dealership bothers you go to Beemer Boneyard. They have the same as OEM filters made by the guys who sell to BMW... at a lower cost. just my $0.02 Exactly what I was thinking, especially for a bike still within the warranty period. I seem to recall a post on this site a few years ago by someone who had a warranty claim denied by BMW because he was not using an "approved/appropriate" oil filter. I don't remember the exact details, so maybe someone else will chime in to either confirm -- or refute -- this. Link to comment
temesvar Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 DR coould pontificate better but it is what is inside and the design parameters that matter. I would never cut corners on an oil filter. .0274 Canadian. I couldn't resist to check this out!! Yeap, is still 0.0274 at this moment!! Link to comment
temesvar Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 This oil filter debate been on many other forums. Is OEM better than other brand names? Not according to some lab tests. But, let's not go there! I started this thread out of frustration, for the price of a washer! I just was wondering what would cost a oil change, so i asked for a price. Here is what i got for response: " 4 - 83 21 2 365963 - 15w-50 Oil - $12.95 ea. 1 - 11 42 7 673541 - Filter - $25.75 ea 1 - Washer kit - $4.50 ea + taxes + shipping. If you'd like to place the order, I'd need your credit card details and a shipping address. " Now, i love my bikes, and will only get what is, or i believe is, better for them. And the dealers know that!! I will pay for the oil, filters are debatable, not gonna go there, but washer?? I hope the damn thing has the BMW logo etched in color! And that prompted me to start this thread. No oil filters, no oil threads, those are endless debates!! Link to comment
RTinNC Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Agree on the Oil filter issue and not making sense to save $3-$4 but have used HiFlo filters and they are pretty good. They are not my first choice but are said to meet some pretty strict standards. Prefer BMW filters and usually get a pretty good deal on them but for aftermarket HiFlo seem pretty good. Link to comment
kioolt Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The washer kit might be crush washers for the transmission and final drive also. Link to comment
Michaelr11 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 temesvar - your oil filter is a Mahle OC306 filter. I've been buying all filters from RockAuto. They seem to have all of the Mahle filters, air-oil-fuel for our bikes. Used to have a parts lookup page where you could enter your bike and they would provide the part numbers, but they just recently dropped that. Now you have to know the part number. MAHLE / CLEVITE OC306 Category: Oil Filter $8.07 Your expensive crush washer kit is probably a full service kit with washers for oil drain plug and transmission and final drive. Link to comment
temesvar Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Your expensive crush washer kit is probably a full service kit with washers for oil drain plug and transmission and final drive. I would like to believe that the washer is a kit, with multiple washers. I only asked for a oil change set of 4L oil, and oil filter.Why woul they offer a kit for transmission and final drive? I don't think so. Link to comment
temesvar Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Thank you all for suggestions and opinions. I sure did not want to open a oil or oil filter thread here. I don't consider myself cheap, and trying to save $3 or $4. But am trying to avoid spending uselessly. OEM filter $25.75, Hiflo $11. 45. I just received the oil. 4L Advantec at 12.95/l,tax 9.98 and $25 shipping from 200 km, total $86.78. That is only for 4L mineral oil. Do i look like I am just trying to save 3 or 4 dollars here? Link to comment
WestyLancs Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 On the oil filter side, I got rid of a '97 SAAB 900 (The GM version) a couple of years ago and ended up with a couple of oil filters in the garage. Out of curiosity I decided to compare them with an RT filter. Given the vagaries of turbo charged engines, and filtering requirements, I figured the relatively low tech BMW hexhead engine wouldn't catch any harm. They fit the 2006 RT just fine diameter wise, but protrude below the sump approx 1/2". 10.000 miles later the bikes still running fine and I no longer have left over oil filters in the garage. Link to comment
RTinNC Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thank you all for suggestions and opinions. I sure did not want to open a oil or oil filter thread here. I don't consider myself cheap, and trying to save $3 or $4. But am trying to avoid spending uselessly. OEM filter $25.75, Hiflo $11. 45. I just received the oil. 4L Advantec at 12.95/l,tax 9.98 and $25 shipping from 200 km, total $86.78. That is only for 4L mineral oil. Do i look like I am just trying to save 3 or 4 dollars here? Not sure where you priced the OEM filter but it should be about $16 ... hence the comment about saving a few bucks. I get OEM filters at my dealer for about $14. Link to comment
Marty Hill Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 He is talking Canadian dollars hence the large difference. When in Montreal last summer I was shocked how far it had dropped against the $. Link to comment
marcopolo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 He is talking Canadian dollars hence the large difference. When in Montreal last summer I was shocked how far it had dropped against the $. The Canadian dollar has dropped like a stone against the U.S. dollar in the last while. Much of that drop is due to the precipitous drop in oil prices, since Canada exports a significant quantity of oil (and other natural resources). Virtually all our oil exports are to the U.S. And yes, I'm assuming the OP is talking about the cost of buying filters etc. from a Canadian dealer, so the prices he mentions are in $ CAD. When I moved to the U.S. in August 2013, it cost me about $1.04 CAD to buy a U.S. dollar. Today it would cost me $1.41 CAD, and just a couple of weeks ago it was a fraction of a cent shy of $1.50 CAD to but a U.S. dollar (it's something I do reasonably frequently, given my income is all in Canadian dollars). Of course, BMW filters and crush washers in Canada are affected by the Euro/$CAD exchange rate. Link to comment
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