RonStewart Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 My opinion: When somebody starts an RIP thread, it would be good manners to treat that thread as a special place of remembrance. Obviously, the initiator of the thread has an emotional connection. People who want to write something unkind about the deceased could start their own thread. I have been both victim and perpetrator of transgressions in this regard. If the OP starts the thread with, "Okay, we all know this guy was a sonofabitch," that would be a different matter. I welcome comment. Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Mr Roger's Nicer Neighbourhood? I can see your point, but unless it's truly personal I don't think I agree. Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Write me down in the 'agree' column. Just start another thread, how hard can that be? Link to comment
Dan5620 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Because the Gary Carter people might get insulted if it was mentioned they lowered the flag for Whitney also? Link to comment
Dave McReynolds Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Clearly if someone is remembering their mother or their dog, I think we ought to refrain from comments other than positive support. For a public figure with baggage, not so much. Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Because the Gary Carter people might get insulted if it was mentioned they lowered the flag for Whitney also? For the record, I don't know much about -- nor do I care to know much about -- either Whitney Houston or Gary Carter. Honestly, I'm sorry they are no longer with us, but both had next to zero impact on any given day of my life. Dan5620, if you feel passionate about something, what's keeping you from starting a thread to discuss the matter?! Link to comment
elkroeger Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have to say that I don't understand the RIP thread thing here at all. Perhaps if it was some famous motorcylcist.... Link to comment
Mister Tee Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Anything posted on a public Internet forum is by definition not private, and if you post personal things it's at your own risk. I say if you start a thread with the possility that a reply might upset you, then don't start it in the first place. Link to comment
10ovr Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 When I die,,You guys can say anything you want about me,,But you may want to read the will first before you post,,There may be a claus or two in there,, Link to comment
notacop Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 "I think we ought to refrain from comments other than positive support." Absolutely way to PC to even consider. Makes for very boring unreal conversations. With an opinion like that one may as well stay silent. Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 "I think we ought to refrain from comments other than positive support." Absolutely way to PC to even consider. Makes for very boring unreal conversations. With an opinion like that one may as well stay silent. OR, (drum roll please as I am about to suggest a highly original thought), simply create your own thread to discuss the irreverent side of things! Thank you, I'll be here all week. Although we hijack threads way too often as it is, the prevention of hijacks is why I suggest simply creating a new thread. Think Whitney Houston is bad for the economy? Maybe you suspected she was an Al Quiada operative incognito? Or maybe you discovered that she IS Michael Jackson! Simply create your own thread where the thought can be further investigated without hijacking someone elses train of thought. Sometimes solutions really are that simple Link to comment
Ken H. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Although we hijack threads way too often as it is, the prevention of hijacks is why I suggest simply creating a new thread. I don’t know, ‘real’ conversations, i.e. person(s) to person(s), take many divergent paths, naturally flow from one thought to another, move to related aspects of the original thoughts. I don’t think that same phenomena here is necessarily a bad thing - it’s what keeps it interesting. “ATTENTION! You must stay on topic!” to me just smacks of even more censorship. Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yes, that is a great dynamic when engaged in conversation, but I think that works well when the number of participants are small. When you have a larger group, this dynamic can become quite problematic. Am I the only person who has observed this? Link to comment
Ken H. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Sure, the conversation can go all over everywhere. But I don’t see the problem part of “problematic.” Some people get in to the new direction of the conversation, some people get out. If the OP, or others, wants to drag it back on original topic, nothing’s stopping them from doing so, right? I just think stifling open conversation here even more isn’t going to be good for the site. Or for any of us here who like learning things, participating in interesting dialog. Heck, this conversation right now between you and I is itself a hijack of the OP’s original 'let RIP RIP' thought, that by your definition, is inappropriate. But as always, the ‘your sandbox, your rules’ axiom applies. If you want to come down hard on hijacks, the so be it. Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 But as always, the ‘your sandbox, your rules’ axiom applies. If you want to come down hard on hijacks, the so be it. OMG, I am speaking as Beemerman2k, not as a moderator! I am not trying to dictate a board policy, I am simply discussing the best way to go about this issue. The last thing I would do is say, "hey, it's my way or the highway" as most of us are here only because the highway isn't available to us at the moment! I'd even opt for the highway if given the choice! Yes, I violate this principle everyday, I am only trying to see if we can come to a consensus on what we feel will be to be appropriate. OK then, how about the OP rules? I like that approach. IF the OP decides the direction of the discussion is a hijack, then others are obligated to respect that decision. I like that; that works for me and I would think for the OP of this thread, too. Maybe we will have fewer threads locked if people simply honor the wishes of the OP? This is simply us agreeing to do this by the way. I'll propose this to the moderating body and see if maybe we can make it a formal policy -- if this is something we can all agree on. Link to comment
hANNAbONE Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 ...sO - i dON'T think we went to the moon... okay - you're turn... (*oh, and Whitney Houston is NOT Michael Jackson*) Link to comment
Fubar Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Clearly if someone is remembering their mother or their dog, I think we ought to refrain from comments other than positive support. For a public figure with baggage, not so much. I gotta come down with Dave on this one. A loved one, pet, scooter, et cetera should receive a fair bit more reverence(?) and respect than yet another Hollywood train wreck. (The only Michael Jackson I miss was a beer god!) Link to comment
KDeline Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ...sO - i dON'T think we went to the moon... okay - you're turn... I think we did........ Link to comment
markgoodrich Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Who's Gary Carter? Link to comment
10ovr Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Who's Gary Carter? Bill Carter's Brother Link to comment
Dan5620 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Who's Gary Carter? A professional baseball player who played in the majors for over 20 years and is a HOF (Hall of Fame) member. He died of a brain tumor at age 57 a week or so ago. He was a very good catcher and by all accounts - person. Link to comment
tallman Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 His daughter played softball for FSU. He was around to support her and the team. Seemed a good guy. RIP Link to comment
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