Mike Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The trustworthy '96 4Runner has gone to a new home, replaced by a Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland (V8): Appropriately, it's snowing and icy today! Link to comment
Whip Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Where do ya plug it in? ..oops Moshe is not gonna be happy wit ya? BTW.....I love it. Link to comment
upflying Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Almost looks like my new Subaru Outback. Link to comment
Mike Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Where do ya plug it in? ..oops Moshe is not gonna be happy wit ya? BTW.....I love it. It's pretty fuel efficient...it's got the Hemi V8. Irresponsible, I know. Link to comment
Mike Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Almost looks like my new Subaru Outback. Love the Subie. Link to comment
moshe_levy Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Where do ya plug it in? ..oops Moshe is not gonna be happy wit ya? BTW.....I love it. Who, me? Congrats! Enjoy it in good health. I hope my little Toyota lasts as well as your '96 did. I'm going to roll over 86,000 miles tonight and she's barely 4 years old! -MKL Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 We have an '08 Grand Cherokee Limited with the 4.7L V8 that we bought last February. Had a hard time finding it. Everything was either a Laredo with a couple of options or a fully loaded Limited with the Hemi. After weighing the pros and cons, we had to pass on the Hemi. Its the Wife's daily driver and she has a heavy foot. We drove it to the beach last summer and I averaged 21mpg. Not too shabby for a vehicle that large that still has the balls under the hood to pass 4 cars and a horse & buggy on a dimly lit back road........you know, hypothetically . The only thing that was even a close contender was a similarly equipped 4-Runner. My Wife drove the Grand Cherokee, then we went to look at the 4-Runner. She hopped in for a test drive but never made it out of the parking lot. She drove around the building, pulled back into the spot, handed the keys back, and said "Wow, that drives and feels like a complete POS". We went straight back to the other dealer and bought the GC. I knew we would like it, but I didn't know how much. We absolutely love it! I really like the new body style. Congrats Link to comment
brennaman Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Beautiful Jeep. They do great in foul weather. We have an '09 grand Cherokee, and an '06 TJ. Love them both for different reasons. Every Jeep needs accessories, here are a couple links you might like: http://www.weathertech.com/product-education-center/floorliner-digitalfit/ http://www.quadratec.com/ http://www.4wd.com/ that should be a good start. Link to comment
Huzband Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Next time you pass a Prius, be sure to kick some snow in it's face. Hemi's rule, hybrid's...well, you know. Link to comment
Mike Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well, it's kind of hybrid-y...switches from 8 cylinders to 4 when cruising under light throttle. I'm going to love parking in the "Fuel-Efficient Vehicles Only" spots. Of course, Big Oil loves people like me. Link to comment
Kathy R Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thumbs up from me and Nigel Link to comment
Paul Mihalka Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Nice SUV! I understand they inherited some handling traits from their Mercedes cousin. Farm truck? Yeah, like my boss's Porsche Cayenne is his (tax deductible) work truck... Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I'm going to love parking in the "Fuel-Efficient Vehicles Only" spots. I park my lifted Wrangler in those spots every chance I get. Its even better when its completely caked in mud from one of my off road outings. Link to comment
philbytx Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 What is this "foul weather" of which you speak !!! Link to comment
Mike Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Nice SUV! I understand they inherited some handling traits from their Mercedes cousin. Farm truck? Yeah, like my boss's Porsche Cayenne is his (tax deductible) work truck... It's got a lot of Daimler DNA, Its development having started under the brief marriage of Daimler and Chrysler. They're pretty sophisticated vehicles, but still retain the toughness that Jeep is known for. Link to comment
Mike Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Beautiful Jeep. They do great in foul weather. We have an '09 grand Cherokee, and an '06 TJ. Love them both for different reasons. Every Jeep needs accessories, here are a couple links you might like: http://www.weathertech.com/product-education-center/floorliner-digitalfit/ http://www.quadratec.com/ http://www.4wd.com/ that should be a good start. Ah, my favorite part of buying a new vehicle! Thanks! Link to comment
Rougarou Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Beautiful Jeep. They do great in foul weather. We have an '09 grand Cherokee, and an '06 TJ. Love them both for different reasons. Every Jeep needs accessories, here are a couple links you might like: http://www.weathertech.com/product-education-center/floorliner-digitalfit/ http://www.quadratec.com/ http://www.4wd.com/ that should be a good start. Ah, my favorite part of buying a new vehicle! Thanks! The first thing I would do is lock the differentials with real lockers. If it's limited slip, it's useless, any type of "slip" axle is basically useless. Generally a 4wd is really just a 2WD, one in the front and one in the back. Twist the frame up a bit and the two wheels with the least amount of traction will spin. Many people believe that because all four wheels will spew mud, that it's 4WD and that's only because of minimal resistance. To have true 4WD, ya gotta lock it up. Enjoy the ride, very nice one at that. Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The first thing I would do is lock the differentials with real lockers. If it's limited slip, it's useless, any type of "slip" axle is basically useless. Generally a 4wd is really just a 2WD, one in the front and one in the back. Twist the frame up a bit and the two wheels with the least amount of traction will spin. Many people believe that because all four wheels will spew mud, that it's 4WD and that's only because of minimal resistance. To have true 4WD, ya gotta lock it up. Enjoy the ride, very nice one at that. you are forgeting that technology has changed. The new 4wd systems monitor the wheel speed sensors and control the brakes. Hanging a wheel or two in the air used to be the death of those old systems with open diffs and mechanical LSD's. The new ones sense the change in wheel speed and grab the brake of that free spinning wheel. Once that happens, it transfers all of your power to the wheels still on the ground. Obviously there is no replacement for a traditional locker at times, but overall it works DAMN well. Even when my JK was stock (open diff front and rear), I was crawling over stuff that guys in modded up TJ's couldn't do. The other exception is with the new Quadra-Drive II system that is optional on the new Grand Cherokee. They have an electronically controlled LSD that allows them to run anywhere from full open to fully locked depending on the input from all of the sensors. Its a pretty impressive system. Link to comment
Fubar Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 It's pretty fuel efficient...it's got the Hemi V8. Huh? The Hemi isn't known for mpg (17 city/23 hwy unless its a 4x4 then lose 1 mpg) Looks good, though. Link to comment
Rougarou Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The first thing I would do is lock the differentials with real lockers. If it's limited slip, it's useless, any type of "slip" axle is basically useless. Generally a 4wd is really just a 2WD, one in the front and one in the back. Twist the frame up a bit and the two wheels with the least amount of traction will spin. Many people believe that because all four wheels will spew mud, that it's 4WD and that's only because of minimal resistance. To have true 4WD, ya gotta lock it up. Enjoy the ride, very nice one at that. you are forgeting that technology has changed. The new 4wd systems monitor the wheel speed sensors and control the brakes. Hanging a wheel or two in the air used to be the death of those old systems with open diffs and mechanical LSD's. The new ones sense the change in wheel speed and grab the brake of that free spinning wheel. Once that happens, it transfers all of your power to the wheels still on the ground. Obviously there is no replacement for a traditional locker at times, but overall it works DAMN well. Even when my JK was stock (open diff front and rear), I was crawling over stuff that guys in modded up TJ's couldn't do. The other exception is with the new Quadra-Drive II system that is optional on the new Grand Cherokee. They have an electronically controlled LSD that allows them to run anywhere from full open to fully locked depending on the input from all of the sensors. Its a pretty impressive system. I have played with some of the new technology and it doesn't even come close to what a fully locked rig can do. Twisting them up good enough and that electronic gizmo will not do the same as a mechanical locker. I would much rather have a known solid, such as a Detroit sitting in the diffs, with it's proven reliability, than to trust a "sensor" because when you need it, the "sensor" will fail. But then again, I didn't play on gravel roads or hard packed trails, if the rocks weren't as high as the hood, the trail wasn't fun, and that's with 37's in the corners Link to comment
Mike Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 The first thing I would do is lock the differentials with real lockers. If it's limited slip, it's useless, any type of "slip" axle is basically useless. Generally a 4wd is really just a 2WD, one in the front and one in the back. Twist the frame up a bit and the two wheels with the least amount of traction will spin. Many people believe that because all four wheels will spew mud, that it's 4WD and that's only because of minimal resistance. To have true 4WD, ya gotta lock it up. Enjoy the ride, very nice one at that. you are forgeting that technology has changed. The new 4wd systems monitor the wheel speed sensors and control the brakes. Hanging a wheel or two in the air used to be the death of those old systems with open diffs and mechanical LSD's. The new ones sense the change in wheel speed and grab the brake of that free spinning wheel. Once that happens, it transfers all of your power to the wheels still on the ground. Obviously there is no replacement for a traditional locker at times, but overall it works DAMN well. Even when my JK was stock (open diff front and rear), I was crawling over stuff that guys in modded up TJ's couldn't do. The other exception is with the new Quadra-Drive II system that is optional on the new Grand Cherokee. They have an electronically controlled LSD that allows them to run anywhere from full open to fully locked depending on the input from all of the sensors. Its a pretty impressive system. Mine has the Quadra-Trac II system. This , braking the free wheel(s) and transferring power to the wheel that still has grip. I considered the off-road package that includes Quadra-Drive II, but realistically I'm not going to be doing any serious off-roading. Generally speaking, the worst I'll encounter are some fairly bad roads and a bit of driving in fields or on reasonable trails. The Jeep has much more capability than I have courage. Link to comment
Quinn Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 4wd gets you stuck in worse places than 2wd. ----- Link to comment
Rougarou Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 4wd gets you stuck in worse places than 2wd. ----- That is only the case because people put the vehicle in 4wd after the vehicle is stuck. And I've never been anywhere where my winch couldn't pull me out Link to comment
Rougarou Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The Jeep has much more capability than I have courage. Don't be scared, it's only sheet metal My last Jeep was barely two weeks off of the showroom floor before I had my first trail scar on it Thing had less than 1000 miles on it. Link to comment
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