Left lane enforcement

[Rougarou]

Occasionally, I'll read my old hometown newspaper. Today, I came across this:

 

State police continue left lane enforcement

Staff Writer,

01-11-2012

 

Early Friday, troopers assigned to Louisiana State Police Troop D conducted a left-lane enforcement detail on Interstate 10 between Sulphur and the Texas state line in Calcasieu Parish. During the detail, a total of 42 citations were issued in two hours.

According to a press release, troopers used a mix of marked and unmarked vehicles to locate and cite offenders who would not move from the left lane and allow other traffic to pass. Of the 42 citations that were issued, 38 were issued for impeding the flow of traffic by not moving from the left lane, one was issued for speeding, one for following too closely, one for an expired license plate, and one for driving under suspension

 

JDN

 

Currently, I live in North Carolina and the daily commute kinda sucks. Vehicles traveling in the left lane doing the same speed as the two middle lanes and the right lane. It is one of my biggest peeves on the road.

 

The Carolina handbook even states "keep to the right, use the left lanes for passing". NC Driver's Handbook So what is it with these ID10T's? And does your state enforce a free left lane?

[RockBottom]

I always thought that's why horns and middle fingers were invented.

[Huzband]

Then there are the Real Geniuses of the Left Lane .

[Rougarou]

I always thought that's why horns and middle fingers were invented.

 

Horns do nothing, flashing the lights does nothing and I only one finger salute if you cut me off or attempt to come in my lane.

[Paul Mihalka]

This is the first time I read about any left lane enforcement in the USA.

[Johnny Jetson]

Looks like good news to me -- may they prosper and spread the word. One of the biggest problems in our traffic flow is slow vehicles camped out in the left lane.

 

More power to 'em!

 

 

[Rougarou]

This is the first time I read about any left lane enforcement in the USA.

 

My wife had gone home a couple of years ago and told me that the left lanes were generally bare. She asked family members about it and the family members said that the state changed the law to state that the left lane is for passing only,.....I say bravo and glad to see them enforcing it!!!

[OoPEZoO]

My wife had gone home a couple of years ago and told me that the left lanes were generally bare. She asked family members about it and the family members said that the state changed the law to state that the left lane is for passing only,.....I say bravo and glad to see them enforcing it!!!

 

+1.....that is great. I hope it catches on elsewhere.

 

It was (lightly) raining today for my 57 mile commute home, and I think I was one of about 5 cars that wanted to travel at or slightly above the speed limit. The amount of slow left lane huggers seems to triple when the weather gets a little bad. I will never understand someones justification for doing 60 in a 65 in the hammer lane of a major interstate

[BFish]

whoever wants to be president should endorse this asap.

 

 

[Rob L]

Several years ago Indiana passed a road rage law specifically designed to stop this behavior. It is seldom enforced.

[outpost22]

Occasionally, I'll read my old hometown newspaper. Today, I came across this:

 

State police continue left lane enforcement

Staff Writer,

01-11-2012

 

Early Friday, troopers assigned to Louisiana State Police Troop D conducted a left-lane enforcement detail on Interstate 10 between Sulphur and the Texas state line in Calcasieu Parish. During the detail, a total of 42 citations were issued in two hours.

According to a press release, troopers used a mix of marked and unmarked vehicles to locate and cite offenders who would not move from the left lane and allow other traffic to pass. Of the 42 citations that were issued, 38 were issued for impeding the flow of traffic by not moving from the left lane, one was issued for speeding, one for following too closely, one for an expired license plate, and one for driving under suspension

 

JDN

 

Currently, I live in North Carolina and the daily commute kinda sucks. Vehicles traveling in the left lane doing the same speed as the two middle lanes and the right lane. It is one of my biggest peeves on the road.

 

The Carolina handbook even states "keep to the right, use the left lanes for passing". NC Driver's Handbook So what is it with these ID10T's? And does your state enforce a free left lane?

 

Now, if they made drivers license revocation in addition to a fine and passed this in all of the lower 48, imagine how free flowing the roads would be.

The only time some (it seems like most) drivers ever change lanes is to exit an off-ramp, and that's usually at the last possible second.

[Chris H.]

I don't know for fact, but, believe that for "real" left lane huggers, they have a dominate left eye and poor spacial relationship awarness.

 

That being said, I fully support a "graded" licensing scheme whereby "permission" to use further left lanes at higher speeds is granted through local training and passing increasingly more rigorous examinations. I think it would help with both young and old drivers, and might help with the pack that like this - excluding the holy rollers who openly and proudly travel at exactly the speed limit in the furthest left lane to "prove a point" to the wicked speeders.

 

Edit for clarification: I say the first as my dad, when 27, suffered severe left brain trauma in an accident and is (in my life) left lane hugger, and admits is being the case he is simply much more comfortable there in a multilane highway.

[Shaman97]

If the police in CA enforced this, 30% of the cars on the road would be ticketed.

[RockBottom]

I don't know for fact, but, believe that for "real" left lane huggers, they have a dominate left eye and poor spacial relationship awarness.

 

much more comfortable there in a multilane highway.

 

I suspect that might be true for .01%. The rest are just idiots.

[CLEAN1]

Welcome to Florida. Several years ago our Legislature has tried to pass laws about not driving in the left lane unless you are passing another vehicle. The then governor vetoed it because "it would be a hardship on our senior citizens"

 

Therefore it is perfectly legal to drive in the left lane in Florida. We have cars and trucks driving in the left lane all over the State at slow speeds. I find that I have to pass on the right most of the time.

 

There are some multiple lane roads where trucks are not permitted to drive in the left lane, but slow cars can still drive there.

[Paul Mihalka]

Obviously personal physical conditions can have a influence. I have a very dominant left eye, to the point that when single handed target shooting I used my right hand but my left eye, but I have comfort preference in any lane.

[Boffin]

I always ride/drive in the left-hand lane and always pass on the right before returning to the left-hand lane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Andy

[RockBottom]

I always ride/drive in the left-hand lane and always pass on the right before returning to the left-hand lane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Andy

 

That's why we declared independence.

[eddd]

I paid for both lanes so I'm going to use both! Same thing for two lane roads.

[FLrider]

I always ride/drive in the left-hand lane and always pass on the right before returning to the left-hand lane.

 

Andy

 

That's why we declared independence.

 

 

 

So on a 3 lane highway, which lane do you guys/gals think is the passing lane?

[Nice n Easy Rider]

I always ride/drive in the left-hand lane and always pass on the right before returning to the left-hand lane.

 

Andy

 

That's why we declared independence.

 

 

 

So on a 3 lane highway, which lane do you guys/gals think is the passing lane?

Obviously whichever one is open!

[NoHeat]

enforcement detail on Interstate 10 between Sulphur and the Texas state line

 

Interesting that they enforce it only within a few miles of a state line. Do you suppose they chose that location because that's the stretch of road with the biggest problem, or because that's where some tickets would be issued to out-of-state drivers instead of mostly to in-state drivers?

[Ponch]

Occasionally, I'll read my old hometown newspaper. Today, I came across this:

 

State police continue left lane enforcement

Staff Writer,

01-11-2012

 

Early Friday, troopers assigned to Louisiana State Police Troop D conducted a left-lane enforcement detail on Interstate 10 between Sulphur and the Texas state line in Calcasieu Parish. During the detail, a total of 42 citations were issued in two hours.

According to a press release, troopers used a mix of marked and unmarked vehicles to locate and cite offenders who would not move from the left lane and allow other traffic to pass. Of the 42 citations that were issued, 38 were issued for impeding the flow of traffic by not moving from the left lane, one was issued for speeding, one for following too closely, one for an expired license plate, and one for driving under suspension

 

JDN

 

Currently, I live in North Carolina and the daily commute kinda sucks. Vehicles traveling in the left lane doing the same speed as the two middle lanes and the right lane. It is one of my biggest peeves on the road.

 

The Carolina handbook even states "keep to the right, use the left lanes for passing". NC Driver's Handbook So what is it with these ID10T's? And does your state enforce a free left lane?

 

In Iowa, riding the same speed in the left lane is a test requirement to get a drivers license. Coming from NY, I have never seen so many people that don't know how to get out of the way. It extends to everything. Letting them know they are number one doesn't seem to help either.

[Mike]

Illinois passed a left lane hog law a year or two ago. There was some publicity about enforcement efforts by the Illinois State Police shortly after the law went into effect, but not much since then. As a general rule, traffic on our expressways and tollways moves at a pretty good clip (when things are jammed up), and my personal observation is that left lane hogs are not as big a problem as they once were. Still, you occasionally see it here.

 

Personally, I used to get all emotional about it and strictly adhered to lane discipline until the vile lane hogger got out of the way. Now, I just tap the accelerator or twist the throttle and get around them. I know that some would tut-tut at such behavior, but I think it's better to get around someone who's mildly oblivious and re-establish a bubble of free space that I control, rather than getting jammed between a slow-moving driver and others who are anxious to pass.

[upflying]

If the police in CA enforced this, 30% of the cars on the road would be ticketed.

This is Ca's keep right law. Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable

to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing

another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing

for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or

driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is

not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as

practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima

facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation

of subdivision (a) of this section.

© The Department of Transportation, with respect to state

highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their

jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs

directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane

except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a

left turn.

 

 

[Fubar]

My brother-in-law is a class 1 offender. Regardless of the speed of the other residents of the passing lane, he will not get out of it. We drove from Sarasota to west of Tallahassee on the slab and he only changed lanes to hit the rest area. Speed varied(per my GPS) from 54-87 mph and did so quite rapidly on many occasions. Cruise control obviously wasn't being used. Swearing at the drivers in front of us instead of changing lanes and going around was the theme of the day. It was FUN!

 

I'm driving next time.

[Paul Mihalka]

"So on a 3 lane highway, which lane do you guys/gals think is the passing lane?"

In Venezuela it used to be the shoulder...

[Mister Tee]

If the police in CA enforced this, 30% of the cars on the road would be ticketed.

This is Ca's keep right law. Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable

to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing

another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing

for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or

driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is

not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as

practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima

facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation

of subdivision (a) of this section.

© The Department of Transportation, with respect to state

highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their

jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs

directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane

except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a

left turn.

 

 

I would agree with that as it pertains to a freeway or highway with a maximum speed limit, but it begs the question of what the actual speed limit is in a prima facia zone.

[upflying]

If the police in CA enforced this, 30% of the cars on the road would be ticketed.

This is Ca's keep right law. Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable

to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing

another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing

for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or

driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is

not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as

practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima

facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation

of subdivision (a) of this section.

© The Department of Transportation, with respect to state

highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their

jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs

directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane

except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a

left turn.

 

 

I would agree with that as it pertains to a freeway or highway with a maximum speed limit, but it begs the question of what the actual speed limit is in a prima facia zone.

 

You are to assume the limit is 25mph unless posted otherwise.

 

V C Section 22352 Prima Facie Speed Limits

Prima Facie Speed Limits

 

22352. (a) The prima facie limits are as follows and shall be applicable unless changed as authorized in this code and, if so changed, only when signs have been erected giving notice thereof:

 

(1) Fifteen miles per hour:

 

(A) When traversing a railway grade crossing, if during the last 100 feet of the approach to the crossing the driver does not have a clear and unobstructed view of the crossing and of any traffic on the railway for a distance of 400 feet in both directions along the railway. This subdivision does not apply in the case of any railway grade crossing where a human flagman is on duty or a clearly visible electrical or mechanical railway crossing signal device is installed but does not then indicate the immediate approach of a railway train or car.

 

(B) When traversing any intersection of highways if during the last 100 feet of the driver's approach to the intersection the driver does not have a clear and unobstructed view of the intersection and of any traffic upon all of the highways entering the intersection for a distance of 100 feet along all those highways, except at an intersection protected by stop signs or yield right-of-way signs or controlled by official traffic control signals.

 

© On any alley.

 

(2) Twenty-five miles per hour:

 

(A) On any highway other than a state highway, in any business or residence district unless a different speed is determined by local authority under procedures set forth in this code.

 

(B) When approaching or passing a school building or the grounds thereof, contiguous to a highway and posted with a standard "SCHOOL" warning sign, while children are going to or leaving the school either during school hours or during the noon recess period. The prima facie limit shall also apply when approaching or passing any school grounds which are not separated from the highway by a fence, gate, or other physical barrier while the grounds are in use by children and the highway is posted with a standard "SCHOOL" warning sign. For purposes of this subparagraph, standard "SCHOOL" warning signs may be placed at any distance up to 500 feet away from school grounds.

 

© When passing a senior center or other facility primarily used by senior citizens, contiguous to a street other than a state highway and posted with a standard "SENIOR" warning sign. A local authority is not required to erect any sign pursuant to this paragraph until donations from private sources covering those costs are received and the local agency makes a determination that the proposed signing should be implemented. A local authority may, however, utilize any other funds available to it to pay for the erection of those signs.

 

(b) This section shall become operative on March 1, 2001.

Added Sec. 2, Ch. 421, Stats. 1997. Effective January 1, 1998.

Amended Sec. 2, Ch. 521, Stats. 2000. Effective January 1, 2001. Operative March 1, 2001.

 

 

[Fubar]

The 2011 Florida Statutes

 

Title XXIII - MOTOR VEHICLES

Chapter 316 - STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL

 

316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—

 

(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

[Rougarou]

enforcement detail on Interstate 10 between Sulphur and the Texas state line

 

Interesting that they enforce it only within a few miles of a state line. Do you suppose they chose that location because that's the stretch of road with the biggest problem, or because that's where some tickets would be issued to out-of-state drivers instead of mostly to in-state drivers?

 

That was just the area that was reported for Troop D. When the wife drove down, she said she could tell a vast difference from the Mississippi line all the way into Sulphur (where her mom lives).

[jviss]

Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic...

I think you may be mistaken; I take "notwithstanding" to mean "regardless of." So, even if you are going the speed limit, if the normal flow of traffic is faster, you have to move right.

[longjohn]

Obviously personal physical conditions can have a influence. I have a very dominant left eye, to the point that when single handed target shooting I used my right hand but my left eye

 

Haha, I thought I was the only one!

[upflying]

Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic...

I think you may be mistaken; I take "notwithstanding" to mean "regardless of." So, even if you are going the speed limit, if the normal flow of traffic is faster, you have to move right.

 

So what happens when a CHP officer sets the "normal speed of traffic" on a freeway at the 65 mph speed limt by operating his/her cruiser at 65 mph in the #1 lane? Is the officer guilty of the move right law or is the driver who passes the officer in the right lane guilty of speeding? "Normal speed of traffic" does not permit speeding.

V C Section 22349 Maximum Speed Limit

Maximum Speed Limit

 

22349. (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour.

 

(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person may drive a vehicle upon a two-lane, undivided highway at a speed greater than 55 miles per hour unless that highway, or portion thereof, has been posted for a higher speed by the Department of Transportation or appropriate local agency upon the basis of an engineering and traffic survey. For purposes of this subdivision, the following apply:

 

(1) A two-lane, undivided highway is a highway with not more than one through lane of travel in each direction.

 

(2) Passing lanes may not be considered when determining the number of through lanes.

 

© It is the intent of the Legislature that there be reasonable signing on affected two-lane, undivided highways described in subdivision (b) in continuing the 55 miles-per-hour speed limit, including placing signs at county boundaries to the extent possible, and at other appropriate locations.

[AviP]

I like driving 750 mile days and have cruise control on @ 8mph over the speed limit. I never cancel cruise even if I'm passing a cop and have never been stopped. Now I do all my driving in the right lane and hate to cancel cruise when I have to pass and the left lane is blocked.

 

I'm a fairly calm driver when it comes to road rage and don't let others rattle my cage. So I will stay 2 car lengths behind or flash my high beams to indicate I need to pass. I've noticed that when it's dark, left-lane drivers are more than happy to let me pass because the low-beams of my pickup truck are high enough to be an annoyance in the rearview or left sideview mirror.

 

I will pass on the right when the driver ahead of me is clueless to my presence or there is a big chain of left-lane drivers below the speed limit and the right lane is empty, which strangely seems to happen a lot. At times, it feels that the right lane is the new fast lane.

[Mister Tee]

You are to assume the limit is 25mph unless posted otherwise.

 

V C Section 22352 Prima Facie Speed Limits

Prima Facie Speed Limits

 

22352. (a) The prima facie limits are as follows and shall be applicable unless changed as authorized in this code and, if so changed, only when signs have been erected giving notice thereof:

 

(1) Fifteen miles per hour:

 

What I was getting at is say, there is a posted limit of 35 mph but travelling 45 mph would still be within the bounds of CVC 22350 (yes I know that's officer discretion), should a vehicle traveling 35 mph be required to pull to the right when prevailing traffic is moving faster?

[moshe_levy]

I love it. Recall George Carlin's famous line, paraphrased, that "Everyone driving slower you than are is an idiot, while anyone driving faster is a maniac!"

 

-MKL

[jviss]

Unless I am mistaken, as long as you are driving at the speed limit, you are not legally required to move right.

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any

vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be

driven in the right-hand lane for traffic...

I think you may be mistaken; I take "notwithstanding" to mean "regardless of." So, even if you are going the speed limit, if the normal flow of traffic is faster, you have to move right.

 

So what happens when a CHP officer sets the "normal speed of traffic" on a freeway at the 65 mph speed limt by operating his/her cruiser at 65 mph in the #1 lane? Is the officer guilty of the move right law or is the driver who passes the officer in the right lane guilty of speeding? "Normal speed of traffic" does not permit speeding.

V C Section 22349 Maximum Speed Limit

Maximum Speed Limit

 

22349. (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour.

 

(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person may drive a vehicle upon a two-lane, undivided highway at a speed greater than 55 miles per hour unless that highway, or portion thereof, has been posted for a higher speed by the Department of Transportation or appropriate local agency upon the basis of an engineering and traffic survey. For purposes of this subdivision, the following apply:

 

(1) A two-lane, undivided highway is a highway with not more than one through lane of travel in each direction.

 

(2) Passing lanes may not be considered when determining the number of through lanes.

 

© It is the intent of the Legislature that there be reasonable signing on affected two-lane, undivided highways described in subdivision (b) in continuing the 55 miles-per-hour speed limit, including placing signs at county boundaries to the extent possible, and at other appropriate locations.

 

I'm not interpreting enforcement, just the language of the statute.

[Boffin]

I always ride/drive in the left-hand lane and always pass on the right before returning to the left-hand lane.

 

Andy

 

That's why we declared independence.

 

 

 

So on a 3 lane highway, which lane do you guys/gals think is the passing lane?

 

The two nearest the median, moving progressively out to pass and progressively back to the lane furthest from the median on completion of the pass.

 

Andy

[upflying]

You are to assume the limit is 25mph unless posted otherwise.

 

V C Section 22352 Prima Facie Speed Limits

Prima Facie Speed Limits

 

22352. (a) The prima facie limits are as follows and shall be applicable unless changed as authorized in this code and, if so changed, only when signs have been erected giving notice thereof:

 

(1) Fifteen miles per hour:

 

What I was getting at is say, there is a posted limit of 35 mph but travelling 45 mph would still be within the bounds of CVC 22350 (yes I know that's officer discretion), should a vehicle traveling 35 mph be required to pull to the right when prevailing traffic is moving faster?

 

You cannot exceed the posted limit, even under 22350.

[FLrider]

Now, I just tap the accelerator or twist the throttle and get around them. I know that some would tut-tut at such behavior, but I think it's better to get around someone who's mildly oblivious and re-establish a bubble of free space that I control, rather than getting jammed between a slow-moving driver and others who are anxious to pass.

 

You're lucky. I always seem to get behind or next to the self righteous citizens who will intentionally block the paths to open space by adjusting their speed so I can't get out the cluster f word.

 

This is when I wish I had a belt driven M60 with 7.65 rounds mounted to my front fender.

[FLrider]

 

So on a 3 lane highway, which lane do you guys/gals think is the passing lane?

 

The two nearest the median, moving progressively out to pass and progressively back to the lane furthest from the median on completion of the pass.

 

Andy

 

Now why would you do that? Would it not make sense to have the middle lane dedicated as a passing lane, with the slow drivers in the right lane and the speeders in the far left lane? Riding the middle lane should be prohibited unless passing....either a slow driver in the right lane OR a speeder in the left (in case you want to go even faster )

 

If we all adhered to that rule, there would be no jam ups.

[Mister Tee]

You cannot exceed the posted limit, even under 22350.

 

Even in a prima facia zone?

[AlexG]

...I’ve always thought that if you want to get anywhere here in NYC you must use the right lane... sort of like in Italy... otherwise you will forever be stock behind daydreaming drivers...

[Ponch]

...I’ve always thought that if you want to get anywhere here in NYC you must use the right lane... sort of like in Italy... otherwise you will forever be stock behind daydreaming drivers...

 

In NY, rubbing is racing...I mean driving.

[Mike]

Now, I just tap the accelerator or twist the throttle and get around them. I know that some would tut-tut at such behavior, but I think it's better to get around someone who's mildly oblivious and re-establish a bubble of free space that I control, rather than getting jammed between a slow-moving driver and others who are anxious to pass.

 

You're lucky. I always seem to get behind or next to the self righteous citizens who will intentionally block the paths to open space by adjusting their speed so I can't get out the cluster f word.

 

This is when I wish I had a belt driven M60 with 7.65 rounds mounted to my front fender.

 

That would be helpful, but you'd still have to maneuver around the debris.

 

Actually, I've never seen it worse than Florida. The entire population seems to be made up of either elderly types who feel compelled to drive at least 10 below the limit in the left lane or angry Bubbas in Ram pickups who ride your tailpipe. There's a mix of the unintentionally dangerous and the intentionally aggressive. Not pretty (Pretti?).

[outpost22]

You cannot exceed the posted limit, even under 22350.

Bob,

Let me "fix" that for you.

 

You cannot legally exceed the posted limit, even under 22350.

Sometimes the right hand can get away from you

[upflying]

You cannot exceed the posted limit, even under 22350.

 

Even in a prima facia zone?

 

A good example of a PF zone is residential. It's always 25mph, sign or no sign. If you see a 35 mph sign in a residential area, increase your speed to the new posted limit.

[Rougarou]

 

 

This is when I wish I had a belt driven M60 with 7.65 rounds mounted to my front fender.

 

That'd be a 7.62mm But in the tradition of Mr Mom, "220, 221, whatever it takes", yours could be, "7.62, 7.65 whatever it takes"

 

[Mister Tee]

 

 

This is when I wish I had a belt driven M60 with 7.65 rounds mounted to my front fender.

 

That'd be a 7.62mm But in the tradition of Mr Mom, "220, 221, whatever it takes", yours could be, "7.62, 7.65 whatever it takes"

 

 

Yes, I definately hope he's loaded 7.65's in his M60 if he's behind me!