macx Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2814/424/ Anybody know if those would happen to fit an 11 R1200RT? Or could someone point me to some that do? I'm sure there's a practical limit to how far up and especially back the bars can be moved, but I'd like something that would move them the most possible, especially back. Thx! Link to comment
macx Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 http://www.adventuremotorcycleparts.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=amp&Product_Code=TTLMTT-513-068&Category_Code=motorcycle-handlebarrisers How about these for a 2011 1200RT? Good price! Hmmm, after another look, they look like the same things. :-/ Link to comment
Tilly Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 They will fit a 2011 RT. You'll note there are only 3 bolts holding the bars on the 2011 model but underneath on the yoke there are 4 holes so these risers will fit. Link to comment
dirtrider Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Morning Macx On the 2010 and 2011 RT’s you can move the bars up and that stresses the brake line (clutch line is OK) but is workable. Up and back really stresses the brake line so most of the better 2010-2011 bar back kits come with an extended brake line so brake line replacement and brake bleeding is required. (that is also why some of the 2010-2011 kits are more expensive) Just moving them up does move them back slightly as the upper triple tree sits at an angle. The older 4 bolt bar risers also look kind of hokey with the new 3 bolt bars as the newer 3 bolt bars don’t match to the older 4 bolt riser correctly. It also looks to me like using the 4 bolt riser with the 3 bolt bars will change the bar tuning isolation so you could end up with more bar buzz at higher engine RPM’s. Link to comment
macx Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Thanks! I usually do my own work, at least when I'm home (I work "on the road" on power plant construction projects), so sounds like I've now got to dig into bleeding these front brakes. I guess the 1200RT's don't have the ABS - or whatever it is called that makes bleeding the older ones more complicated - , so would imagine bleeding is a little simpler than on my 04 1150R. I'm going in for my 600 mile check this AM, will ask the dealer if he has any setbacks (I'm more concerned with getting them set back than up) and if he does, with the necessary brake line extension, I'll maybe just have him install them and do the brake thing. I don't know if I've got enuf tools with me here at my present apartment. Thanks! Link to comment
dirtrider Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Morning again Macx Yes the newer 1200RT does have different ABS brake system than your older (wizzy) brakes but don’t let that fool you. If just bleeding to service the system with new fluid then very easy to bleed. If you EVER allow the fluid to run out and get air in the line around or above the upper line junction block or ABS controller you won’t think it is so easy and it will fight you w-a-y more than the (wizzy) brake system ever did. This new I-ABS-gen2 systems can really try your patience if it gets air in it. Link to comment
macx Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Morning Macx Up and back really stresses the brake line so most of the better 2010-2011 bar back kits come with an extended brake line so brake line replacement and brake bleeding is required. I've done some looking but haven't noticed any kits that said they contain brake hose extenders. Could you point me in the right direction? I checked this AM & the Vegas dealer doesn't carry any. Thanks!! Link to comment
dirtrider Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bar risers with brake hose, note the rearward movement Link to comment
Ozonewanderer Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Macx, you might want to check out this thread on bar risers: http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59947 If you find something you like, let me know how it works out. I'm leaning towards the Ilium. Link to comment
macx Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Hey, that's a great bit of research and data gathering! I agree with the Ilium ones - more movement esp towards the rear which is what I feel will be of the most benefit, and solves the brake line problem. Both you and Dirtrider pointed those out, they are definitely on my short list of tweaks. Thanks!! Link to comment
macx Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 I just went back to take another look and noticed their 1200RT specific highway footrests. They look like a well thought out design. On my 1150R roadster I had tried the ones that clamp into the spark plug well in the valve cover but quickly found those to be located too high which resulted in me sitting on the point of my butt, and were more uncomfortable than not having any at all. It didn't take long to take them back off and sell them! I had thought, at the time, that the lower I could get my feet and the farther forward would get the greatest comfort level with highway pegs. These look to be about as low and forward as it's possible to get, and I like the rotating wide footpad. At the price, they'll be lower on my tweak list than the bar backs and some other things, but they're on the list. Link to comment
Ozonewanderer Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Here's a brief discussion about the installation of the extended brake line: http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59593 And at this wonderful site, select the BMW R1200RT, specify your height, then adjust the bar rise and pullback to see what the effect will be on your lean angle: http://cycle-ergo.com/ Good luck! Link to comment
macx Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hey, appreciate that! I've done just about everything on my 1150R except rebuild the FD and the motor - have even swapped enduro gears into the trans my own self. Now I've got to basically start over for the 1200, altho I would hope it wouldn't need too much in the way of tweaks to get it "just right", but after $250 for the 600 mile engine & FD oil change and whatever checks they do, I'm darn sure going to do my own servicing on this one, too! Link to comment
macx Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Macx, you might want to check out this thread on bar risers: http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59947 If you find something you like, let me know how it works out. I'm leaning towards the Ilium. I went ahead and got the Iliums. Got them on today, not that big of a job. Just sitting on the bike seems like a really major improvement - sit up straighter, arms not as bent. Now for the bleeding. Have bled a whole pint of fluid and not bubble one coming out of the calipers - pushed & blocked the pistons back, have bled some out of each caliper, not a single bubble yet. Mine has a little bleed right at the front master cyl, most likely to bleed air trapped in that fitting to the hose. Did get a couple bubbles out of it. Have some lever pressure, but not really firm yet. Have to go get more fluid. Am going to try to find some speed bleeders, this screwing around with a wrench and pumping the brakes by myself is a PITA. M8x1.25x32mm (1.28") Link to comment
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