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K1600GTL

 

 

K1600GT

 

I see they are using both CANBus and traditional fuses in this bike with additional warnings and cutouts for electrical load and usage. And, a gel battery.

 

Looks like there may be some additional fuse locations available for additional powered farkles on the OEM fuse block.

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Looks like there may be some additional fuse locations available for additional powered farkles on the OEM fuse block.

 

So, are you saying the bike is farkled from the get go? :grin:

 

 

Pat

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My work partner Drew just came back from the national BMW dealer meeting and they had a K1600GT there to check out. He says the bike has so much electronic stuff that delivery to a new customer will take 2 hours to explain everything and then they won't remember it anyways. He also found out that the official version is that to properly use the sound system you HAVE TO HAVE a Schubert C3 helmet, it won't work with others. Sounds like way too much of a good (?) thing. Seems like I got out of full time BMW bike sales at the right time.

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I noticed that removing the topcase is not exactly a five-second operation like it is on the 1200RT, or K1200/1300GT. As for the electronics/menus etc., I suspect that a lot of it is reasonably intuitive and harder to explain on paper than it is to actually operate (at least one would hope so, for the money).

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He says the bike has so much electronic stuff that delivery to a new customer will take 2 hours to explain everything and then they won't remember it anyways.

 

That's why BMW is trying to draw in younger buyers.

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He also found out that the official version is that to properly use the sound system you HAVE TO HAVE a Schubert C3 helmet, it won't work with others.

 

Amen to that - my italics around the "official" not Paul's. Hopefully this will stop the sad tales of the potential customer expecting BMW techs to connect the BMW bluetooth system to a J&M dongle (or other brand) before he buys. BMW can effectively tell him to take a hike and sell the machine to the next guy in the the line.

 

If the J&M dongle and headset is a dealbreaker, that fellow will be better off on GW anyway.

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I am the same.

If one considers that the six-cylinder is only 15-20kg heavier than the four (if you take into account the extra strenghtening that would have had to be added to the four to give it the same torque output - according to BMW) and the electrical technology, then the new K is one of the most exciting new "tourer" developments for years.

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AdirondackJack

Is it true that the rating on the alternator on the GT/GTL's is in the 580 range, as opposed to 700+ on the R12RT's? How do you think this will impact the addition of aftermarket accessories?

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Hmmm, the GT looks pretty cool, although Suz wouldn't like that pillion seat angle. We were just talking about it at dinner tonight. We're both happy with the RT, which only has about 60k on the odometer. Maybe in a couple years....

 

Edit: Has the regular service cost been mentioned anywhere? This doesn't look like a normal tech day bike. The manual doesn't say how many miles between service...just says "annual" unless you ride a lot, in which case it might need to be serviced sooner.

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CoarsegoldKid

Service is "no service" as in lifetime like our final drives were stated to be. This keeps the cost down.

I haven't seen any tech days for any of the inline engined bikes requiring valve clearance checks. Perhaps I just missed them. In any event change oil as desired.

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Service is "no service" as in lifetime like our final drives were stated to be. This keeps the cost down.

I haven't seen any tech days for any of the inline engined bikes requiring valve clearance checks. Perhaps I just missed them. In any event change oil as desired.

 

I think Limecreek did his valves on his GT...had to remove the entire front end of the bike, take off the garage roof, required two cranes and a backhoe, but then, he's sort of compulsive.

 

Joe, you mentioned oil change. I recall watching a couple of K1200s at a tech day a couple years ago. I believe there were TWO drain plugs, a puddle on the floor (drove Limecreek to distraction to have his floor sullied), and much contortion of bodies to get the oil out, then back in. Later, Lime bought some sort of suction device, which made it easier, but cost as much as a new Concours, without the power.

 

So I still want to know: what's it going to cost to get these things serviced?

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CoarsegoldKid

Mark, those mid-summer cries heard in the distance will certainly be attributed to the credit card payment for the 20K service. That's progress. I'm sure we will find out soon what that service will cost.

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Service on K's is not hard, but it's sure as heck not easy either.

 

Oil change requires the drain plug removal, oil tank drained, and filter swap. Oh, filter swap, you say? Yea, it'll take you thirty minutes to get to it as you have to remove the footpeg linkage, etc.

 

Valves? Mark is right. Backhoe, roof removal from garage, Cirque de Soleil manipulations........

 

I had every intention of just letting the dealer do the valve service....and I like servicing my own stuff!

 

CHA----CHING!!!

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Phil, did BMW ever get you set right?

 

On the GT......yes, finally! They have completed the buy back.

 

Now, as for the GS, it goes in on Tuesday for three more issues. I have requested a buyback on this bike now as well.

 

Three (YES, 3) cracked gas tanks

Steering head bearings

Chain and sprockets recall

Fuel level sender recall

Stalling recall

Radiator hose recall

Front axle manufacturing defect

Rear wheel bearing defect

Leaking valve cover service bulletin

And, now, a possible cam chain issue. (Won't know until they get in there next week.

 

Otherwise, yea, they set me right............ :dopeslap::rofl:

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CoarsegoldKid

And, now, a possible cam chain issue. (Won't know until they get in there next week.

 

You might want to be in attendance in case they can't find it.

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Dennis Andress
Service on K's is not hard, but it's sure as heck not easy either.

 

Oil change requires the drain plug removal, oil tank drained, and filter swap. Oh, filter swap, you say? Yea, it'll take you thirty minutes to get to it as you have to remove the footpeg linkage, etc.

 

Valves? Mark is right. Backhoe, roof removal from garage, Cirque de Soleil manipulations........

 

I had every intention of just letting the dealer do the valve service....and I like servicing my own stuff!

 

CHA----CHING!!!

 

The K1300 oil change is way easier than the K1200 RS. The oil filter for K1200/1300 R is almost an inch shorter, which allows for changing it without undoing the footpeg and linkage.

 

 

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Later, Lime bought some sort of suction device, which made it easier, but cost as much as a new Concours, without the power.

 

Yeah, the suckage with a Connie is Awesome!!!

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