Swag Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Hi all, I have an 07 RT and it won't start with the side stand down, and the clutch pulled in. Would that be caused by the switch that is on the side stand pivot pin? Or is there a switch on the clutch that would cause that? I was inspecting the switch on the side stand (Like I know what to look for) anyway I was wiping it off and it felt a little loose and pulled of in my hand, shouldn't it have a clip to hold it on? Do I need to install a new switch? Thanks for the help. Link to comment
10ovr Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Easy way to check the clutch lever and brake lever switch is to ride it,set cruse control and see if the levers cancel it,,If they do the switches are working.Then you can go from there.If its in neutral,you should not have to pull the clutch in to start it on the side stand ? Link to comment
Swag Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 It starts in neutral no problem. I almost never start it in gear, but it stalled yesterday for some reason and wouldn't start costing with the clutch pulled in in 1st gear. I'm worndering if it stalled because of the switch on the side stand somehow? Thanks for your reply, I will try the cruse thing out. Link to comment
Paul In Australia Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 HI It wont start in gear with the side stand down, even with the clutch pulled in. You need to be in neutral OR have the side stand up. safety feature best regards paul Link to comment
Paul Mihalka Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 If the bike is in gear, it is not supposed to start or run with the side stand down, even with the clutch pulled. Try it: Get on the bike, pull up the side stand, put it in gear, start the motor with the clutch pulled. When you are like this with the engine running/bike in gear, put down the side stand. The engine stops. Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Sorry I didn't make myself clear, it won't start with the side stand up while the bike is in gear. The thing I want to know could the switch on the side stand be the problem? And should the switch just slide of the shaft it's on, or is there some kind of clip holding it on. Thank you Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 I reread my post and I said side stand down, what I wanted to say was my side stand up. Link to comment
Paul Mihalka Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 In this case it sure sound like your side stand switch is MIA. Link to comment
10ovr Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 It could be the clutch switch to,,witch can be eliminated by seeing if it cancels the cruse control... Link to comment
Lineareagle Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I just replaced the clutch switch, it is adjustable so you could check adjustment, at least on an '06, you should be able to hear it click but it could still be bad even then. Mine was intermittent and would work with a partial pull on the clutch but would open when fully pulling in the clutch. Easy to pull the switch and hook up to a continuity tester and flip the reed to check it out. Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks for the reply,where is the clutch switch located, how do I get to it? I put the cruse on and pulled the clutch lever and the the cruse went off. So does that mean that the clutch switch is okay? If I disconnected the battery could it reset? Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 It could be the clutch switch to,,witch can be eliminated by seeing if it cancels the cruse control... 10ovr, I just tried the cruse and it went off when I pulled the clutch lever in. Link to comment
Hall Vince Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Sounds like the clutch switch is OK. You could test the side stand switch simply as well by having the engine running in gear, with clutch pulled in and popping the side stand down to see if engine cuts out. I know mine does this as I've done it before, Simple test of switch. Just a thought... I may have had this on my previous R12ST. It might be due to the bike still rolling, the computer knows this from the input from ABS sensors. I recall stalling bike ST at traffic lights just as they changed to green as I approached slowly, my thinking I was in 1st and was in fact 2nd, still rolling. My mistake, but tried to restart once and couldn't and ended up stopping. Place bike in neutral, turn off ignition and then restart. Only did this once tho. Link to comment
jaytee Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 My ST would not start in gear wit hthe side stand up and the clutch pulled in. It was a bad Clutch switch. I was lazy so I had the dealer replace it for 65$ while I waited. JT Link to comment
10ovr Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Just for the hell of it I rode my bike down the street ( 07 RT )and killed the motor in 3rd gear,Pulled in the clutch and hit the starter button,,It works rolling,,It started,So ABS sensor dose not come into play,,I would be looking at the side stand switch,, Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks for the help all, I think I will go by Irv Seaver one afternoon next week and see what they have to say. Link to comment
NewBlue Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I bought my bike new in 09 and the first tool I bought was the GS911. I have no affiliation with them whatsoever but highly recommend it. Plug it in and you can watch numerous inputs and outputs including sidestand and clutch switches. just sayin Link to comment
10ovr Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I bought my bike new in 09 and the first tool I bought was the GS911. I have no affiliation with them whatsoever but highly recommend it. Plug it in and you can watch numerous inputs and outputs including sidestand and clutch switches. just sayin +1 I have one,,Great tool to have Link to comment
Swag Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 I have thought about getting GS911, but I not sure I would be able to use it I'm not to good with computers. Link to comment
NewBlue Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I can't figure out how to post a picture here but I can use the GS911 so you shouldn't have a problem. If you do your own service and repairs it's a great tool, that said I wouldn't buy it just to read a clutch switch. If there is a tech day in your area and they have one available I would recommend you see it being used and then make the decision if it's for you. Link to comment
Harry_Wilshusen Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Here's what mine does when trying to start in gear: If I pull the clutch lever before I put up the side stand it won't start. If I retract the side stand first then pull the clutch lever it starts. I don't know if it's suppose to work this way but it does. Harry Link to comment
Alan D Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Hi all, I have an 07 RT and it won't start with the side stand down, and the clutch pulled in. Would that be caused by the switch that is on the side stand pivot pin? Or is there a switch on the clutch that would cause that? I was inspecting the switch on the side stand (Like I know what to look for) anyway I was wiping it off and it felt a little loose and pulled of in my hand, shouldn't it have a clip to hold it on? Do I need to install a new switch? Thanks for the help. Did you ever solve this problem? My bike is starting to do it. I attached my GS911 and it seems to be a sluggish clutch switch. Link to comment
JayW Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Sorry I didn't make myself clear, it won't start with the side stand up while the bike is in gear. The next time it won't start, try this: Let the clutch lever all the way out then pull back in. The bike should then start. Jay Link to comment
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