why why why the difference?

[italiano]

Why the difference in lighness and feedback and the feelling on offroad, between the GS ADV and the RT??

Both bikes more or less have the same weight same engine same distance between tires same suspension system. They only have 1.5 degree of difference on the steering angle.

?Can be all that diferrence only because of tyre width and diameter of the front tyre?

Now that i have bought a new GSA my RT feel like an Honda Odyssey !!!

 

[russell_bynum]

For starters, the GS's wide bars give you lots of leverage, which makes it feel like it turns quicker. I suspect the places where the GS is lighter are important...stuff like the heavy RT fairing and windshield gear which is mounted up high on top of the front wheel is not present on the GS. So...even though the weight difference is not all that much, it feels like a lot because of where the weight reduction comes from.

 

 

 

 

[wacokid]

Leverage and riding position makes a big difference. In addition to the rake angle, the trail might be different too. I like my R1150RT, but I miss the riding position of my R1150GS. I think the big fairing makes a bike feel heavier than a naked bike.

[RSR]

With a motorcycle suspension setup 1.5 degree is huge it adds up to an inch less trail on a GS, Less trail + less rake = lighter quicker steering. Combine that with tire size and center of gravity of course these bikes will handle diffrent.

[motoguy128]

I noticed when I rode a R1100S and the R1150R back ot back, the R1150R felt more nimble and flickable in the turns, but less stable due ot hte wider bars. The same will be true between the GS and R1200RT. In a 100mph sweeper, I'd rather have the RT, on 30mph switchbacks, I'd prefer the GS. The RT is for stable, but sporty touring, the other is a urban and off-road adventure machine.

 

You don't want a bike too flickable when it's loaded with a passenger and gear and gets hit by a 40mph crosswind gust with all that plastic, espeically while accelerating on a freeway on-ramp.

 

You want a bike responsive when you're flying down on gravel backroads at 60mph and you need to change course rapidly to avoid a turtle or a deep rut.

[OoPEZoO]

You want a bike responsive when you're flying down on gravel backroads at 60mph and you need to change course rapidly to avoid a turtle or a deep rut.

 

I don't know about that. Ask Ken H. about how well a GS avoids turtles.......I've heard not so well

[Ken H.]

Ask Ken H. about how well a GS avoids turtles.......I've heard not so well

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