Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 In Tx I have a concealed hand gun license and I know some states will honor my license when traveling...what about the ones that don't?????..it makes me feel safer when I travel... what about you??????? Link to comment
Marty Hill Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 All who are about to answer...you understand that you are sharing this info with the entire world. Think! Link to comment
BitScribbler Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm from the UK. The whole concept of carrying a hand-gun (concealed or not) to make me feel safe just boggles my mind. Two very different countries, I guess. Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 In Tx I have a concealed hand gun license and I know some states will honor my license when traveling...what about the ones that don't?????..it makes me feel safer when I travel... what about you??????? There's gotta be web sites out there - starting with the NRA, I would think - that will tell you which states are amenable to your concealed carry, and exactly what you have to do to comply. As for what about me...I've never carried. In 100K miles of bike travel, never felt a need to. Only once I felt a bit edgy, when I got off US101 and turned the wrong way on University Avenue, ending up (very briefly) at a gas station in EAST Palo Alto. My unease was more due to things I had heard about that locale prior to my trip, rather than to any cues in my immediate environment; people at the station were minding their own business just fine. Link to comment
Woodie Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Don't do it in NYC/NY, CT or MA. They won't recognize an out of state license. Link to comment
ClearwaterBMW Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 www.packing.org it's the bible of this info FOR THE USA be careful what you admit here you never know who's looking greg Link to comment
Tool Man Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Your license is honered by 22 additional states besides Tx. Each state having it's own limitations. What you need to study up on are the states (you plan to traverse through) peaceable journey laws, as they are all different. Information can be found Here and you can do a search on this topic, as it has been discussed frequently in the past. Link to comment
MattS Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm from the UK. The whole concept of carrying a hand-gun (concealed or not) to make me feel safe just boggles my mind. Two very different countries, I guess. I'm from the US. The whole concept of carrying a hand-gun (concealed or not) to make me feel safe just boggles my mind. Two very different countries, I guess. Link to comment
Jerry_75_Guy Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Don't do it in NYC/NY, CT or MA. They won't recognize an out of state license. As I understand it Cook county IL also will not recognize your lic. and may try to confiscate your weapon. This nearly happened when my regional chief pilot moved there, and checked in with the local police station to ask if he needed to register with them. Link to comment
Joe_Rocket Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Not just on road trips... but all the time. I also hold a concealed carry permit. A handgun is simply an outstanding accessory for a motorcycle. JW Link to comment
belezar Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Geee - don't know how I've made it so far.... Link to comment
Joe Frickin' Friday Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Geee - don't know how I've made it so far.... Hey, everyone's got their preferred accessories. Some folks can't bear to travel without an MP3 player or a radar detector... Link to comment
CraCol Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Don't do it in NYC/NY, CT or MA. They won't recognize an out of state license. In NJ, you go directly to jail, don't pass GO, etc.. Link to comment
stu650 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm from the UK. The whole concept of carrying a hand-gun (concealed or not) to make me feel safe just boggles my mind. Two very different countries, I guess. I'll second that. I have travelled in or through 26 of the states and I have NEVER felt worried or in danger. Link to comment
noel Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 In Malaysia, I believe the punishment is still *DEATH*. Link to comment
baggerchris Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 When I was a young person, I thought that I always took a "friend" with me for protection. Now after 35 years on the road and never having been a position of needing him, I realize that I still take him along for the fun of it. I love to plink and target shoot. When I am camping or on a trip, and I am in a suitable area, I will shoot. I keep him(or her) in one locked saddlebag, and the fodder in the other locked saddlebag. Link to comment
Rich_O Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 All who are about to answer...you understand that you are sharing this info with the entire world. Think I don't carry guns or money, in fact, nothing of value whatsoever....and my bike is not worth stealing. But you (entire world out there) still won't be able to take anything from me...think on that! Link to comment
Aluminum_Butt Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 You might want to check out this thread: Thread Link to comment
Blue Beemer Dude Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I too have a concealed carry permit and have been the victim of an armed robbery as well as a victim of a broken heart... but that's another thread. My permit expires next month and I've decided not to renew it. I've come to the conclusion that a) in most cases, it's not going to do you a lot of good and b) if you find yourself in a place that makes you so uncomfortable that you feel that you need a gun, then you should leave and avoid those places in the future. I would hate to have to kill someone just because I felt that my wallet was in danger. Which - by the way - is not justification for using deadly force. The only time that deadly force is justified is when you are in fear of your life. And the only time that happens to me is when I take a turn too fast. And a .357 isn't going to give me any more traction at that point... Natch, the second amendment is still in force, and I support your right to go about armed, as long as you don't shoot me for cutting you off in traffic. Michael Link to comment
R80RTKen Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 A handgun is simply an outstanding accessory for a motorcycle. JW Can you get color matched bullets? Link to comment
AZJerry Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I have a Concealed Weapons Permit. I have not carried on the bike but I always carry in other vehicles. I don't worry about who knows this. When stopped my a LEO they check my license and know that I have a permit. They also know that to have the permit I have not been convicted of a felony and have had checks run by DPS. Carrying for me is legal. I don't carry with the intension of breaking the law. To me using a radar detector appears that you are planning on breaking the law. Link to comment
John in VA Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 United States Code § 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms Release date: 2004-08-06 "Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console." Since carrying an unloaded gun around in a locked container doesn't afford much protection while travelling through a "no-carry" state, it might be better just to leave it at home (securely locked up, of course). Link to comment
space Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Just go to packing.org authoritative source for laws by state and reciprocity Link to comment
Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 I just took my renewal class and the legal use of forse is simple.....if you are about to lose something that you cannot reasonable expect to get back, you can use lethal force to protect your property..... Link to comment
russell_bynum Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I just took my renewal class and the legal use of forse is simple.....if you are about to lose something that you cannot reasonable expect to get back, you can use lethal force to protect your property..... That may very well be true in TX, but the laws are different in other states. You also have to consider that, even if you are legally justified, you WILL be sued in civil court. I'm not making an argument for or against, but you need to understand the laws in each location you'll be traveling in, and you need to understand the consequences of using deadly force. Link to comment
RichEdwards Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm from the UK. The whole concept of carrying a hand-gun (concealed or not) to make me feel safe just boggles my mind. Two very different countries, I guess. Lots of American minds are boggled by this too, so it's not really a different country issue. Link to comment
RPG Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 BitScribbler, I guess our forefathers didn't feel your same sense of "safety" back in 1776. Hey, just kidding, we're all good buddies now. Although I have a CCW, I haven't felt the need to carry on a motorcycle. Having the FREEDOM to decide however, I do enjoy quite well. RPG Link to comment
smiller Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Hey, everyone's got their preferred accessories. Some folks can't bear to travel without an MP3 player or a radar detector... How about an iGun? It should be white, trendy, and very easy to use. Link to comment
MattS Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 All who are about to answer...you understand that you are sharing this info with the entire world. Think! I like to wear ladies' underwear. There ... I said it. Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'll second that. I have travelled in or through 26 of the states and I have NEVER felt worried or in danger. I'll third that, 3 continents, 16+ countries, 48 states, 400,000 bike miles, 250,000+ car miles, never felt I needed one. I've had a gun pointed at me twice but in neither case would it have helped to have one myself (not bike related incidents) Link to comment
R1100RT_Ray Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I carry while in my home state. I stash it in the right side bag when in states that don't honor Florida's permit. I never put the ammo in the left bag since that's the one that catches fire. Link to comment
Lawman Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm hoping some day everyone in America will subscribe to the Rodney King philosophy of "Can't we just all get along here" Until then I'll carry.. Link to comment
Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 I ask this question because of your comments in another thread....and I didn't want to hijack the thread...... My wife has also taken the gun classes amd has her permit...we ran out of gas on I-10 between Fort Stockton and Ozona...I felt a lot better leaving her with the bike knowing she had the gun....... Link to comment
taters Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 i live in nevada and i have a concealed carry permit. it is also recognized in utah idaho arizona alaska and a few more states. i always carry when i ride. even when i walk. lol i will probably never need a weapon but if i do its a comfort to know i have an equalizer. Link to comment
Redbrick Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 How about pepper spray......Any "packers there?"..... Phil.......Redbrick Link to comment
John in VA Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I just took my renewal class and the legal use of forse is simple.....if you are about to lose something that you cannot reasonable expect to get back, you can use lethal force to protect your property..... Who would kill somebody over a property theft? If somebody tries to swipe my iPod, I can put a bullet in their head? And a gun license renewal class teaches that that is lawful? Link to comment
Rich_O Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I just took my renewal class and the legal use of forse is simple.....if you are about to lose something that you cannot reasonable expect to get back, you can use lethal force to protect your property..... Who would kill somebody over a property theft? If somebody tries to swipe my iPod, I can put a bullet in their head? And a gun license renewal class teaches that that is lawful? Methinks he maybe should have said "can't reasonably expect to replace." e.g. one's life. Various states differ on this, and i'm sure it goes into case law, not just code Link to comment
DavidEBSmith Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Who would kill somebody over a property theft? If somebody tries to swipe my iPod, I can put a bullet in their head? And a gun license renewal class teaches that that is lawful? One in Texas does. From the Texas Penal Code: § 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property. (b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and: (1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or (2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor. § 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and (3) he reasonably believes that: (A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or (B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. Link to comment
Lawman Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Straight from the Texas Penal code Section 9.42 Deadly Force to Protect Property A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, moveable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41 ; and (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery,aggravated robbery,theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property ; and (3) he reasonably believes that: (A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means ; or (B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.. We just don't think one should have to allow another to steal his stuff.. Link to comment
russell_bynum Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 One in Texas does. From the Texas Penal Code: That's what I was talking about. The laws from state to state vary widely and if you don't understand the laws in the states you are traveling through, you could easily wind up in jail for doing something in California that would likely get a ticker-tape parade in Texas. Either way, you WILL be sued in civil court. Link to comment
Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 I cannot belive any state would stop me from protecting my property.....anyone can sue anyone for anything....winning and collecting are the hard part..... Link to comment
Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 russel your Bio says......Peace through superior fire power??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment
David Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I cannot belive any state would stop me from protecting my property.....anyone can sue anyone for anything....winning and collecting are the hard part..... Whip, do you have the information you need now? The links above seemed to provide it. If so, let's not have a discussion about gun control, yet again. It has nothing to do with motorcycling, per se. Link to comment
R4ND0M_AX3 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 russel your Bio says......Peace through superior fire power??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment
Whip Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 Thanks for all the help............... whip Link to comment
tomk99r11 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Well, maybe it does have to do with motorcyling. Maybe all rallies should post if firearms are welcome, or not. Metal detectors, armed vs unarmed campsites, etc. I frankly don't need to be around someone who feels they need a firearm for protection for whatever reason. And, I do own some guns for hunting. Link to comment
John in VA Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 We just don't think one should have to allow another to steal his stuff.. Man, that's a Whole Nother Country. Can't do that in Virginia. Link to comment
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