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I'd like to publicly acknowledge John Ranalleta and Tasker Day for going to collect Ed's motorcycle, drop him off to get a rental car, and store his bike in the garage. There are hundreds of people on this site that would do the same thing, but these folks have come to the rescue on multiple occasions.

 

You're good folks for helping to take care of ol' beat up Ed.

 

 

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Ed ... Thanks for sharing and being dead honest rather than ... anything else, if you get my drift.

 

Hopefully all of us will learn much from this (no judgment implied).

 

Take care ... lots of good advice here (esp. from Tim ... BTDT too!).

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russell_bynum
I'd like to publicly acknowledge John Ranalleta and Tasker Day for going to collect Ed's motorcycle, drop him off to get a rental car, and store his bike in the garage. There are hundreds of people on this site that would do the same thing, but these folks have come to the rescue on multiple occasions.

 

You're good folks for helping to take care of ol' beat up Ed.

 

Hat's off to a really great guy...and Tasker, too.

 

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Holy $%^&! That was not good! Hope that you do not repeat that again! All I can say is sorry for your loss....THe BB can be fixed/ replaced...but you? God loves fools ya know!

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I'd like to publicly acknowledge John Ranalleta and Tasker Day for going to collect Ed's motorcycle, drop him off to get a rental car, and store his bike in the garage. There are hundreds of people on this site that would do the same thing, but these folks have come to the rescue on multiple occasions.

 

You're good folks for helping to take care of ol' beat up Ed.

 

 

Well done guys!!!

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Scary deal, Ed. Glad you're ok, and I hope you're back on the road soon. Thanks for your post on the causes of the crash. It definitely resonates with me.

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I'd like to publicly acknowledge John Ranalleta and Tasker Day for going to collect Ed's motorcycle, drop him off to get a rental car, and store his bike in the garage. There are hundreds of people on this site that would do the same thing, but these folks have come to the rescue on multiple occasions.

 

You're good folks for helping to take care of ol' beat up Ed.

 

 

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ShovelStrokeEd

OK, I'm up in Elkhart now, my original destination.

 

Tasker and John, when I get back, dinner is on me and it won't begin to pay you guys back for jumping to my aid. David, you'll have to wait till I'm in your neck of the woods again but, rest assured, I haven't forgotten. Sorry I wasn't my bubbly self today but, I was hurtin' a good deal more than I let on.

 

I'm down to 400 mg of Advil every 4 hours now. Hate the stuff as it makes my tummy all queezy but it's better than the pain. Coughing is still brutal. The rest of the assorted bumps, bruises and abrasions are more or less OK. They get regular coatings of Neosporin and are kept lightly bandaged.

 

To all my well wishers, comedians included, thanks guys. This really is like a big family.

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OK, I'm up in Elkhart now, my original destination.

 

Tasker and John, when I get back, dinner is on me and it won't begin to pay you guys back for jumping to my aid. David, you'll have to wait till I'm in your neck of the woods again but, rest assured, I haven't forgotten. Sorry I wasn't my bubbly self today but, I was hurtin' a good deal more than I let on.

 

I'm down to 400 mg of Advil every 4 hours now. Hate the stuff as it makes my tummy all queezy but it's better than the pain. Coughing is still brutal. The rest of the assorted bumps, bruises and abrasions are more or less OK. They get regular coatings of Neosporin and are kept lightly bandaged.

 

To all my well wishers, comedians included, thanks guys. This really is like a big family.

 

 

Ed, you get a chance to look the bike over any better? Think it can be ridden home or you going to have to truck or trailer it?

 

Usually when you hit something with the front end hard enough to flip it like that it bends the forks..

 

I’ll bet you got stuff aching today you didn’t even know you had in your body..

 

You going to try to keep working & finish the job you went up there for? If so that can’t be an easy task.. Your equipment survive the ordeal?..

 

Hope you’ll be back to normal with all body parts A-OK & fully on line in short order.. If you thumped your ribs they probably won’t.. I bruised mine a while ago & they still hurt like he!! from time to time,, for some reason those things heal very slowly..

 

Twisty

 

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Very glad to hear that you're OK. That was one heck of a get off. I'm sure the recovery will go well and you'll be back in the saddle soon.

 

Also, thanks so much for posting and being brutally honest. It makes one give pause to what can happen to any one of us. You've definitely slowed me down a bit.

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Ed, I'm so glad you're alive and well enough to fill us all in on this. What a scare and how lucky you were.

 

You're definitely going to be hurting for a while and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

 

I hope you heal fast and well and again, we're just so happy you're okay. :thumbsup: We would miss you, truly. :(

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W O W !! Glad you made it through that one!! Sends chills through me to think about the beenie wearers...

 

You are mature enough to admit your mistakes and learn from them. Also, thanks for the lesson to the rest of us though done the hard way. Patience is not one of my attributes but it just got a boost...thanks for that reminder!!

 

Heal up quick.

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To all my well wishers, comedians included, thanks guys. This really is like a big family.

 

Ed, this member of this big family would appreciate it if you would chronicle for us the progression of your "Oh, hell! I'm mortal and could have died" thoughts over coming weeks, and how they impact your thoughts on continuing to ride. I'm projecting NOTHING here, but as you know, this sort of thing leads a lot of riders to abandon the sport. Your decision process about it will be of interest.

 

Changing subject: I bought a bike once (not the one involved in this tale) from the widow of a guy who crashed crossing railroad tracks at a bad angle. He and his girlfriend (the widow had things to say about that, of course) were thrown to the ground in what should have been a painful, but survivable, lowside crash. He died when he landed on the can of soda that he had stuffed in the front of his jacket a few hundred yards before at a gas stop - all sorts of damage to his heart. He was dead when the EMTs arrived. I took the same lesson from that cited several times here. Riding gear shouldn't even have pockets up there.

 

Pilgrim

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ShovelStrokeEd

Front end is tweaked but at this point I don't know what is bent. That'll have to wait till I get to take it apart. Could be fork tubes, could be the upper bridge is bent, could be both. If that's the case, the backup plan will have to go into effect, involving either a junk yard or the trailer relay. At some point, it just doesn't pay to throw too much money at a 7 year old bike with 78 thousand miles on it.

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Ed, good ride critique....we'll all learn from this one.

 

I found myself impatient yesterday returning from the big weekend. Couldn't accept the fact that I couldn't split traffic like I normally do and the ride was taking much longer than normal. Finally just kicked it down a notch. Dawned on me that most of the cagers out there weren't the regular commute cagers. I wasn't getting the room I normally get, and I wasn't about to insist on it.

 

And about your meds, make damn sure you are taking ibuprofen with food, and no aspirin. It'll tear your stomach up...

 

MB>

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Dang Ed, OUCH :eek:

 

Glad your relatively Ok after this ordeal.

 

Thanks John & Tasker for stepping up to the plate :thumbsup:

 

Eric, “OUCH”-- that pretty well says it all..

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Front end is tweaked but at this point I don't know what is bent. That'll have to wait till I get to take it apart. Could be fork tubes, could be the upper bridge is bent, could be both. If that's the case, the backup plan will have to go into effect, involving either a junk yard or the trailer relay. At some point, it just doesn't pay to throw too much money at a 7 year old bike with 78 thousand miles on it.

 

Ed, is that particular bike near & dear to you or will you move on to something else if that one needs too much to repair easily?

 

The group here is pretty well spread all over the country so if you need parts for your BB we can all look in our area for what you need.. I used to see a few BB’s up here but don’t seem to see many any more..

 

Need anything just let us know & we will go on the hunt for you..

 

Twisty

 

 

 

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Ed,

You seem to be doing well.

How are the fingers?

Don't mean to harp, but are they broken, worse?

Hope not.

Putting $$$ into older bikes is a tough decision, hope it can be worked out.

 

Was the Monkey with You, or at home?

This guy is wanting to ride up and help out if needed.

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Best wishes.

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ShovelStrokeEd

Pilgrim,

I have really more or less put that behind me already. I long ago accepted the dangers of riding and chose to ride anyway. Did I expect this crash? Of course not. Did I realize I could crash and quite possibly it would take/change my life? Yep, and I decided to ride anyway and will ride again.

 

I have to take a long, hard look at finances as that will determine whether or not I fix this bike or get another. I'm OK for now but am going to have to get some mode of transport in a couple of weeks. I'll be watching CL, Fleabay and checking with dealers near and far for a bargain. I'm not quite ready to go the KLR route but that might wind up being what I can afford.

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ShovelStrokeEd

Tim,

Sock Monkey is safe at home, should have brought her along, maybe she would have talked some sense into me.

 

The fingers are broken, at the very tips. Doc says not much they can do other than splints or ice. Swelling is minor as to size but both are pretty hard. No joint problems, I can articulate them well. They really aren't all that sore as the swelling is more or less reducing sensation. I'm keeping an eye on them but, knock wood (in my case, tap gently) they seem to be alright.

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Wow! Glad to hear you made it through.

 

I am going to have to rethink where I carry my iPod...it never dawned on me that it could be a problem in an unplanned exit from the bike. That could have been a painful mistake. D'oh!

 

I have been working on my patience levels. I tend to be a pretty sedate rider, but can get pretty annoyed when people are going too slow for me. A sobering reminder that I need to keep that in check-no matter how much the nitwit in front of me is annoying me.

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The fingers are broken, at the very tips. Doc says not much they can do other than splints or ice.
Talk to a different doc - seriously. Fingers are pretty important, and a specialist may have a different opinion.

 

Two years ago, I cut my foot. I went to the ER for stitches, and told the attending MD that, aside from the cut itself, my foot didn't feel right. I described having pain up the leg, and on the foot down below the cut, and asked if perhaps I'd cut a tendon or muscle. He told me "nope - it's just a couple stitches and you'll be fine."

The following Monday I went to my GP who agreed it was messed up. He sent me to a specialist who confirmed my suspicions of a severed tendon. The repair surgery, recovery, and PT to get it back to (almost) normal were much harder and lengthier because I didn't get it properly treated immediately.

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Joe Frickin' Friday
The fingers are broken, at the very tips. Doc says not much they can do other than splints or ice.
Talk to a different doc - seriously. Fingers are pretty important, and a specialist may have a different opinion.

 

Yeah, I'd agree, you'll want to consult a hand specialist. My wife got the tip of one finger crushed in a hotel room door a couple of months ago. Like you (Ed), she broke the tip of her finger:

 

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Just a small fragment of the round disk/pad at the tip of the red bone on her middle finger. The specialist was consulted because flexor/extensor tendons are attached to this bone, and if these attachments are compromised, you may have trouble fully bending/straightening your fingers later on. Fortunately in Masako's case this was not a problem, but you may want to check with the doc to make sure your fingers are fine.

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Ed,

Really glad to hear you're generally OK. Thanks too for posting your assessment of what happened. With almost no exceptions you could have inserted my name in your description and the riding style would fit. Thanks for forcing me to think about that without paying the price you did. Heal well and soon.

 

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Since you are still in Indiana, I would check in with one of the specialists at Ortho Indy, in Indianapolis. Those folks are the ones who perform miracles on all the race car drivers, as well as us mere mortals.

 

Glad to hear you were not hurt any worse.

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Mitch,

 

I keep my Big Mak tank bag on the bike(s) at all times so I have the garage door opener in it, along with other miscellaneous crap. If I am leaving the bike for any extended time, I just unhook it and take the TB along with me or, if the bags/top box are on and have room, put it in one of them.

 

The only "hard" item that is on my body is my cell phone which is kept in one of the pants thigh frpmt pocket. This just in case of a get off and I perhaps need the phone because of some immobilization and/or can't get to the bike.

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Shots from "Ed's Motorcycle Buffing Service"...

 

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Ed, I'm a little surprised that thing was rideable. Wow.

 

A great reaction from you, Ed, after a very bad situation, and a great reaction from this community, but one thing I don't understand: why all the photos of Stoner's bike?

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Dennis Andress

Ed, It's good to here you are okay and that people are helping you. But, this crashing thing is way over the top for me. You're like a roll model around here and it really sucks when ones model crashes..... :wave::wave:

 

Please take time to heal before you get back on the bike and continue to show the rest of us how its done.

 

Dennis

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Ed, It's good to here you are okay and that people are helping you. But, this crashing thing is way over the top for me. You're like a roll model around here and it really sucks when ones model crashes..... :wave::wave:

 

Please take time to heal before you get back on the bike and continue to show the rest of us how its done.

 

Dennis

 

What a cruel cruel play on words Dennis, for shame. I'm sure you meant role model not "roll" model. :grin:

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Pilgrim,

I have really more or less put that behind me already. I long ago accepted the dangers of riding and chose to ride anyway. Did I expect this crash? Of course not. Did I realize I could crash and quite possibly it would take/change my life? Yep, and I decided to ride anyway and will ride again.

 

Thanks, Ed. That right there is more or less what I expected from you, but a contrary reaction would be interesting to explore.

 

Reactions are unpredictable, but prior thought can certainly shape them. The worst example I ever saw of apparent lack of prior thought was when a real long-term rider I knew once caught a wind gust on a two-lane bridge in eastern Colorado and got blown across the center stripe. No traffic coming, so it was more or less a non-event, but it could have been. At the next rest stop he said he was parking it for good when he got back to Denver, and he did.

 

Anyway, heal fast.

 

Pilgrim

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ShovelStrokeEd

See, that just wouldn't compute for me. Trust me, long before this particular crash, I had a long talk with myself about riding and where it would take me. I evaluated the risks of continuing to ride after each and every crash I have ever suffered and there have been at least 3 serious ones, not counting this one. Two were at drag strips where an ambulance was present, another on the street where an ambulance took more than an hour to arrive. There have been a couple of basically non-event get offs as well. If you enjoy riding hard or racing, a crash is kinda just part of the bargain. It doesn't necessarily have to happen but one should never forget it could.

 

There are levels to all this as well. Skill development, at least in my case, is a never ending process. One builds on the earlier skill set and explores the new boundaries opened up. Sometimes they are an tiny incremental improvement, sometimes whole new vistas open up. With each exploration comes the risk of crashing as one really doesn't know where the line is until one has crossed it.

 

My approach to this has always been similar to David's. Riding a motorcycle is no different from any other athletic activity. You work at building skills so that you can get what you need/want from the activity. The reward lies within yourself as you recognize the improvements you have made. I still seek that and thus will get back on board as soon as circumstance allows.

 

I too have seen folks hang it up for what seems to me a minor incident. I'm just not built that way. I'll want to explore the reasons and develop a strategy for dealing with a similar event in the future. I think it is coded in my DNA. Just too stubborn to let anything like this get me down. Especially a case like this where I just plain f'd up. I know how to fix it and it won't happen again.

 

 

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ShovelStrokeEd

Mitch,

Thanks for the heads up.

I have full mobility in both the broken fingers, albeit limited at the moment by some swelling. I didn't get to look at the x-rays but, I'm pretty sure they are more or less OK. Not even all that much pain.

 

I tried to use them today while working on an instrument and I had enough mobility to do things like catch screw threads and manipulate tools. In other words, fine motor control doesn't seem to be comprimised. They sure are ugly looking at the moment though. I'll likely lose both nails. Both fingers down to the first joint are a nice plum color, nails and all. Looks like a typical crush injury you get from something like a rolling mill or printing press and that's probably what it is.

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OK, I'm up in Elkhart now, my original destination.

 

Tasker and John, when I get back, dinner is on me and it won't begin to pay you guys back for jumping to my aid. David, you'll have to wait till I'm in your neck of the woods again but, rest assured, I haven't forgotten. Sorry I wasn't my bubbly self today but, I was hurtin' a good deal more than I let on.

 

I'm down to 400 mg of Advil every 4 hours now. Hate the stuff as it makes my tummy all queezy but it's better than the pain. Coughing is still brutal. The rest of the assorted bumps, bruises and abrasions are more or less OK. They get regular coatings of Neosporin and are kept lightly bandaged.

 

To all my well wishers, comedians included, thanks guys. This really is like a big family.

WOW ED WOW , get well soon that is all I can say! To this BIG family, your #1! :thumbsup: nice job!
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Ed -- GLAD you're ok!

 

But really, it wasn't luck... you were prepared with proper gear. The most dramatic photo is your helmet facemask. Imagine if you'd been wearing a cruiser beanie! You'd have no nose left -- yikes! Big advertisement for full face helmets.

 

TAKE IT EASY for awhile and get well!

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louisvillebob

Ed:

 

Wow! Glad to read u are OK. Take care of urself. U are pretty much a ROLE model for me; I've learned a lot from ur posts and the others on this board. I don't want to learn things like this the hard way. (Never thought about stuff in the pockets). Heal quickly!

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Damn Ed, just saw this from a couple of days ago. Sounds like you proved some of the old axioms to be true yet again.

 

Heal well my friend.

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Ed

New Member and I don't know you but you are a blessed man to walk away from this.Thanks for sharing your story I have learned a lot from your misfortune. Since having kids I have tried my best to think safety with the clothing, but not with speed. I will slow down I don’t have to be the first to arrive. Since becoming a member I have learned more helpful tips. Thanks to all that post.

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John Ranalletta

I took the liberty of putting Ed's Honda on the lift. I used the limestone that fell out of it for my driveway.

 

The fairings took a beating and the impact torqued the left side fairing as well, breaking some attachment tabs. We can fab some aluminum tabs to keep those intact.

 

The top fairing looks to be askew, so I'm thinking the top fairing supports are bent.

 

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I stripped the right side lower fairing and wiped off some of the road smudge.

 

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Upon close (and inexpert) inspection, the front rim and tire look to be okay. There's some scraping in one spot next to the bead but nothing fatal to the rim.

 

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The lower fairing was pushed in toward the exhaust on during impact. The lower edge of the fairing actually fused (melted) to the exhaust. You can see strands of plastic melted to the exhaust.

 

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Here's where my technical skills fall short. Just eyeing the fork tubes, they appear to be straight. There's no obvious bends, kinks or dings that I can see without stripping off more fairing.

 

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Obviously, the right rearset is toast. I think it could be welded well enough to get the bike home, but I'm not a welder. The rearset appears to be a Gilles Tooling piece (mucho dinero). Ed will have to decide how to remedy this. If it is a Gilles, likely the broken piece can be replaced w/o replacing the entire assembly.

 

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The throttle took a beating but is useable. Not pretty, but useable and will have to be replaced.

 

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John Ranalletta

The rearset is a Gilles. Indysuperbike is a dealer. I sent them a picture hoping Tucker Rocky will stock replacement parts. Should know soon.

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Late as usual ...

 

Damn, wow, yikes, whew, ouch, 70!?, sh!t, whew, man, ouch.

 

I think that about covers it.

 

Be well, Ed. The family needs you. Glad you're mainly OK. I'd say thanks for manning up to post about this and your assessment of the causes, but OTOH, I'd expect nothing less. Best wishes for all that happens next.

 

Kudos to the rescue crew.

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I have to tell you that a more upright riding position would have allowed you to see that little pesky depression of course

 

Not nice.....

 

Hope it didn't make Ed laugh (probably hurts)!!!

 

Stan

 

Ed, time to laugh again, but I have to agree on this statement.............

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