90%angel Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Just read on RoadRacingWorld.com that the German Grand Prix will be broadcast on CBS sports this weekend at 1:00 PM instead of Speed. Looks like Speed still has the 250 race at 2PM though. FYI. Link: CBS sports Does anyone know who's got Laguna? Last year, Speed had it on the day, then ABC was like a week later. Of course, we'll probably have to endure the American announcers for that race again instead of the usual crew. Sigh.
James Clark Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 High-Def or the typical cell-phone quality video?
russell_bynum Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 High-Def or the typical cell-phone quality video? I believe everyone uses the same feed, so I wouldn't expect a change.
motoguy128 Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 It show "SD Delay". So I'm guessing Standard Definition. However, it's followed by Tour de France coverage... in HD. Cool. Great scenery, great motorcycles and great athletes on 2 wheels. I beleive Sunday is one of the challenging Mountian stages, so some breathtaking descents would be expected.
TowJam Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 So anyone want to start a pool on how long into the broadcast before one of the announcers makes a reference to NASCAR?
Wheels Rollin' Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 So anyone want to start a pool on how long into the broadcast before one of the announcers makes a reference to NASCAR? '... Now that's funny... I don't care who you are!' (with my sincere apoligies to Larry, the Cable Guy)... The sad part, TowJam? You know it will happen <>... The real question is -- how many times? ~ Bill
russell_bynum Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 So anyone want to start a pool on how long into the broadcast before one of the announcers makes a reference to NASCAR? '... Now that's funny... I don't care who you are!' (with my sincere apoligies to Larry, the Cable Guy)... The sad part, TowJam? You know it will happen <>... The real question is -- how many times? ~ Bill My favorite was the last winter Olympics where every single sport that involved multiple competitors in a race was called "NASCAR on ice/snow".
90%angel Posted July 11, 2008 Author Posted July 11, 2008 Well, judging by the practice times today, and the fact that nobody can even come close to touching Casey's time, I expect the German GP will be a snoozer. Hopefully not, but I fully expect to see Jerry posting the first "spoler alert: German GP results" on Sunday cause Casey won! Darn. I was hoping for a race. We'll see what tomorrow's practice brings. I don't wish Casey ill, btw...just wish some other riders could make it interesting for him (and us!)
HappyMan Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 First off....NASCAR will come up within the first two minutes. Mark my words......arrgh! Next, can Stoner be stopped? My gosh he's fast. However, if anyone can come through it's Vale. He's been having some slow times but that hasn't stopped him before and with Stoner, Colin and Pedrosa crashing in FP2 it could effect the race psychologically. I know V.R. can crash and not let it phase him and I think Stoner can too but it could play into the outcome. I'm not holding my breath but I'd love to see Rossi come through. Nothing against Stoner but you've got to route for Rossi. You can't help but love him for all the character he brings to GP not to mention we'll never see the likes of him in the sport again. I'd also love to see Colin do well. And what about Simoncelli and Kallio? The 250 races can really smoke.
TowJam Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 First off....NASCAR will come up within the first two minutes. Mark my words......arrgh! Hmmm... this could be fun. Shades of the old frat house "Hi Bob! drinking game.
HappyMan Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 First off....NASCAR will come up within the first two minutes. Mark my words......arrgh! Hmmm... this could be fun. Shades of the old frat house "Hi Bob! drinking game. Hah!!! Smack on with that one.
90%angel Posted July 13, 2008 Author Posted July 13, 2008 FYI, when I set up the race in Tivo today, it said it was playing at 10AM, so it must be 10 for us left coasters, and 1PM Eastern.
BULLman Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 First off....NASCAR will come up within the first two minutes. Mark my words......arrgh! Hmmm... this could be fun. Shades of the old frat house "Hi Bob! drinking game. Dang, I didn't hear one NASCAR remark - and my beer got warm Can't believe they were only 10 mph off the pace compared to when it was dry.
bmwk100 Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Not the most exciting of races, but it was in HD. When will Speed start covering the races in HD?
motoguy128 Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Not the most exciting of races, but it was in HD. When will Speed start covering the races in HD? I wasn't terribly impressed. Still in 4:3 format, and the picture quality was far from full HD. CBS coverage of cycling was the same. So we can get full HD cameras for golf, triathlons and some other events on network TV in the USA, but apparently the Europeans won't give us the better feed, or they want too much money for it. Any ideas what the problems is? Watching AMA racing, you can tell the cameras are HD, but I agree... when is Speed going to upgrade their broadcast. It can't be that expensive. The Food network is in HD for crying out loud!
HappyMan Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I just got home and watched it form my Moto GP subscription so didn't get to see if NASCAR came up. Sorry to see Pedrosa go down that way. Once again....Stoner! You the MAN. Give me a break. The kids got talent. Hope Vale can pull off the championship this year cause I love watching him but my hat is off to Stoner. Sorry to see Colin go down. I had hoped he'd get the podium.
TowJam Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I just got home and watched it form my Moto GP subscription so didn't get to see if NASCAR came up. Sorry to see Pedrosa go down that way. Once again....Stoner! You the MAN. Give me a break. The kids got talent. Hope Vale can pull off the championship this year cause I love watching him but my hat is off to Stoner. Sorry to see Colin go down. I had hoped he'd get the podium. I was impressed - no references to NASCAR (at least none that I heard). I have to admit that I'm partial to Honda so I sure hated to see Pedrosa go down. And after watching them go full ballz-out in the rain, I realize how insignificant my own riding skills are.
Sailorlite Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Can someone explain (again) the various road racing series. Specifically, what's GP, what's WSB, are there other similar big bike series, in the USA only??? What size engines? Any more 2-strokes? Which is the most important series from the manufacturers' viewpoint? How does next week's race at Laguna fit into this?
TowJam Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Can someone explain (again) the various road racing series. Specifically, what's GP, what's WSB, are there other similar big bike series, in the USA only??? What size engines? Any more 2-strokes? Which is the most important series from the manufacturers' viewpoint? How does next week's race at Laguna fit into this? Here's a good starting point - with links that drill down into each category. Laguna Seca is part of the MotoGP circuit and if I remember correctly, will be race #9 of this year's series.
90%angel Posted July 14, 2008 Author Posted July 14, 2008 Laguna Seca will host the Moto GP riders and the AMA riders next week. AMA riders will actually do two stops there; next weekend, and their final weekend of the series, some time in Sept. Here's what I know about road racing (won't even get in to Motocross and all that!) MotoGP is the best riders on the best equipment in the world. Not a lot of restrictions on these bikes other than they have so many tires they can choose from on a given weekend and they are 800ccs max. These are not production based bikes; they are prototype machines costing well over the million dollar mark. Can't buy these in stores! Keep their cost in mind the next time you see a racer throw one down the race track. Ouch on a lot of levels. World Superbike (WSB or WSBK) is a bunch of very good riders from all over the world(arguably as good as MotoGP riders; many of these guys came from MotoGP or are working toward MotoGP rides) who ride 1000cc superbikes. These are highly modified race bikes, but based on production motorcycles. AMA is the American Motorcycle Association's racing series, which contains: Supersport (600cc stock racing series; not a lot of mods allowed), FX (600 cc highly modified racing bikes, but based on production machines), Superstock (1000 cc stock racing series; not a lot of mods allowed), and Superbikes (1000 cc highly modified racing bikes, but based on production machines). Supersport has some of the best racing of the series; Superbikes, while the most popular, has been kind of dull of late since it turns into the "Mat and Ben" show (Mladin and Spies, resepectively; they run away with it almost every time; either they are THAT good, or the GXR 1000 is THAT good, or both). Of course, AMA just sold the rights to the racing arm to DMG Motorsports who has all kinds of ideas to change the racing series, so this is probably the last year that AMA racing has what I just described. :-( It's kind of a mess right now, with many manufacturers not liking what DMG is proposing, and threatening to do their own series, or pull out all together...it's a complete disaster right now. If you can catch an AMA race this year, do - it might be the last time things aren't in a horrible mess for a while! Similar to our American (AMA) series, Japan has their superbike racing, Britain has their own superbike series, and Australia has their own superbike series (as I am sure many other countries do as well, but those are the biggies). Many other countries in Europe focus more on 125 and 250 cc racing. These bikes usually travel with the MotoGP bikes and race ahead of them. Laguna is an anomoly though; too expensive to get those classes over here, so they sit out that round. There is talk of bringing those classes to Laguna next year, however. As far as I know, there are no more two strokes; MotoGP used to be two stroke, 500cc engines, until they went to the 990 cc four strokes. They's since abandoned the 990cc's in favor of the "slower" 800 cc's (even though riders are shattering lap records right and left on these "slower" machines). Some bikes in the production based classes are V twins vs. inline fours. I'm not a real specialist in engines though, so I'll let someone else field that part of your question. As far as the manufacturers are concerned, here in the States they seem to favor Supersport and Superbikes...those seem to be the series that draw the biggest stars and sell the most bikes on Monday! MotoGP draws the biggest worldwide audience, but I'm not sure how that translates into sales since they're not based on anything we can go buy (though their technology does eventually trickle down to us). There. Clear as mud?
russell_bynum Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 As far as I know, there are no more two strokes; MotoGP used to be two stroke, 500cc engines, until they went to the 990 cc four strokes. They's since abandoned the 990cc's in favor of the "slower" 800 cc's (even though riders are shattering lap records right and left on these "slower" machines). 125 and 250 are still 2-stroke for the moment, though changes are in the works to change 250 into something else...probably 600cc and 4-stroke.
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