dasBoot Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 I broke down and bought a Zumo today. Now I have the chore of wiring it. The previous owner of the bike installed a Centek fusebox (great) but now I have to take the bike apart to install the wire. Is there a spot where I can see diagrams of which fairings need to be removed and how to remove them? Thanks...
Skywagon Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Not sure what bike you have, but when I installed my Zumo, I just used a stiff wire ( as in coat hangar ) tied the Zumo power cable to it with electrical tape and threaded it from the front of the bike to the back of the bike. It was pretty simple. Next time I had the tupperware off, I checked it closely to make sure nothing was in a place to interfere or burn. All was good...Thinking about it again, I would just remove the left side tupperward and not worry for a month if i threaded it wrong.
dasBoot Posted July 6, 2008 Author Posted July 6, 2008 Clever indeed. Unfortunately I have to remove a 2610 power connector that was installed through the top of the dash with tiedowns. I have no choice but to remove body parts :-)
JR356 Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Hi, Just leave the 2610 connector,unless you are removing it to sell. Disconnect the 2610 from the Centech and secure both ends of the 2610 wiring.Then route the Zumo wiring as the previous poster suggested. JR356
Satguy Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Get the proper BMW harness that plugs into the wiring already on the bike for the BMW navigator. Solder the BMW connector to the Zumo harness and yer done. No Centech or fuses required. Power is switched by the ZFE. Connector is located directly behind the headlight and is taped to the harness at the factory. Part number for the BMW harness is 83 30 0 413 585
black99S Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Get the proper BMW harness that plugs into the wiring already on the bike for the BMW navigator. Solder the BMW connector to the Zumo harness and yer done. No Centech or fuses required. Power is switched by the ZFE. Connector is located directly behind the headlight and is taped to the harness at the factory. Part number for the BMW harness is 83 30 0 413 585 waste of money - BMW connector costs $$$ Dumb - Zumo will turn off every time you stop for gas or... Just wire it to your Centec whatever block or direct to the battery with the provided fuse. If you are going to leave the bike you will take the Zumo with you. If you are parking for a long time - turn Zumo off.
dasBoot Posted July 7, 2008 Author Posted July 7, 2008 Thanks for the advice. I ended up taking the bike apart and wired it directly to the Centec. I did need to remove the old wire for sale so it wasn't a waste of time. I kind of hate the fact the Zumo stays on when I turn off the bike but I guess I'll get used to it and end up appreciating it. Funny thing though - install went great but I ended up with an extra screw :-0
JR356 Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Hi, Not sure about the Zumo,but on some Garmins you have the option to either stay on with battery power,or turn off when direct power is lost. Look in your manual,otherwise someone here will have a more accurate answer for you. Also,I always heard that having leftover parts was the sign of a good mechanic:grin: JR356
hopz Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 No option on the Zumo... Congratulations on the purchase and the first Tupperwareectomy! Now get yourself over to the Zumoforums.com and check it out.
black99S Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Not sure about the Zumo,but on some Garmins you have the option to either stay on with battery power,or turn off when direct power is lost. Zumo has this feature - not tried on RT because I power direct from the battery - does work in car mount as my power point turns off with the key. If you don't remember to look at the screen at key-off time you can miss the short 'do you want to continue on battery' screen splash, then it off and too bad.
TF1200RT Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Not sure about the Zumo,but on some Garmins you have the option to either stay on with battery power,or turn off when direct power is lost. My Zumo 450 is wired this way.
Les is more Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 waste of money - BMW connector costs $$$ Dumb - Zumo will turn off every time you stop for gas or... Just wire it to your Centec whatever block or direct to the battery with the provided fuse. If you are going to leave the bike you will take the Zumo with you. If you are parking for a long time - turn Zumo off. To each his own but since you asked for help and someone gave you their best advice, it's just possible that you could have been slightly more gracious.
Ken H. Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 waste of money - BMW connector costs $$$ Dumb - Zumo will turn off every time you stop for gas or... There are more than one means to most ends... Some people prefer the OEM way, some other aftermarket ways. Neither is a "waste" or "dumb."
Satguy Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 waste of money - BMW connector costs $$$ Actually, we sell the BMW connector for $25. Not that much of a waste of money, but that is only my opinion. YMMV
Don_F Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Yes there is? when the zumo loses bike power it asks if you would like to run on internal power (lasts for up to 3hrs on the internal) useful for fuel stops.
black99S Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 waste of money - BMW connector costs $$$ Dumb - Zumo will turn off every time you stop for gas or... Just wire it to your Centec whatever block or direct to the battery with the provided fuse. If you are going to leave the bike you will take the Zumo with you. If you are parking for a long time - turn Zumo off. To each his own but since you asked for help and someone gave you their best advice, it's just possible that you could have been slightly more gracious. Regret my cryptic response and lack of tact offended. Slamming not intended. The original poster who asked for advice noted he had a Centech and was questioning how best to install a Zumo. IMHO, the simplest, cheapest and most useable install is to wire the Zumo direct to the battery using the supplied fuse/wire, or in his case to his existing Centech. In my corner of the world the BMW connector is $80, and again, IMHO adding a Centech just for a Zumo is not necessary, nor is using the BMW power source just because it is there. While everyone has personal preferences, I appreciate the following benefits of a directly powered Zumo. * I can turn it on before I start the bike so it acquires sattelites and gets ready to ride * When I turn off the bike for a gas stop or road side wiz the Zumo stays on, keeps the track continuous, continues to calculate stop times and a bunch of other metrics, and is immediately ready to resume the ride without another startup cycle. and I can browse possible routes while stopped. * when I stop I don't have to watch for the 'do you want to run on battery' prompt then try to read the dimmed screen or remember how to increase screen brightness when on battery. * If I'm going to leave the bike I turn off the Zumo and take it with me.
Beaky Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 I went the BMW connector route into the socket by the headstock, in the UK the connector only costs about £7 (probably equiv to about $10-$12). I didn't like the idea of the mount being permanently live if wired direct to the battery as the mount can eaily get swamped in water and then there could be a short and blown fuse. The way mine is connected means there is a delay before the power is lost and the Zumo doesn't ask if you want to continue on battery power for a few minutes after turning off the ignition. This is both good and bad, especially bad if I miss the option when refueling and then have to let the zumo power up when turning the ign on and go through PIN entry etc. TBH there's no big issue here, connection by GPS socket, battery or Centec will all work and the chances of a problem are small. Operationally the permanently live option is most comvenient albeit with a small risk of flat battery if you forget and leave the Zumo on in the garage overnight.
99Roadster Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 I really don't get what the issue is. If the Zumo powers off during a planned route it will continue on the route as though the unit never lost power when it's powered back on. Sure, it will start another track but the route will proceed without issue. If the preference is to never turn off, wire it direct.
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