Effervescent Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Well, the good kinda-tow. The motorcycle friendly, no charge kinda-tow. I went too long between valve adjustments (6k over!) and the engine started making big time valve noise on the right cylinder. Crossing my fingers on this one. Having a broken centerstand bolt replaced, new cables, and tune-up while I am at it. -Eff Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 PS That rear tire has 13k on it...not bad! And about 1/3 thread left, IMHO. -Eff Link to comment
Aluminum_Butt Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Quote: That's a slick setup! Agreed! I assume that the bed was able to lay flat on the ground while the bike was loaded? Got any pictures of that? I'm just curious about the lifting system. (Sorry, engineering backgroud ) Link to comment
ELP_JC Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I sure wouldn't b*tch about service costs from that dealer; that's CUSTOMER SERVICE. Hope other dealers take note. Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 For you? The World, MadDawg. -Eff Link to comment
beemerman2k Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Ahh Eff: I routinely go 15-20K between valve adjustments with no issues at all from my RT. Routinely. Maybe its because I have 70K miles on my bike the engine is well worn in and the valves aren't getting out of play much. But 15K since the last adjustment? Not even noteworthy in my book. I fear that you have a problem that, because of the lenght of time since your last adjustment, may be blamed on the valves where in fact it might have happened anyhow. Then again, these engines tend to be bulletproof. I'd be interested in knowing what the problem turns out to be. Link to comment
Spike Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I had my RT towed by one of those rigs. They are way slick. I love 'em. As for going 6K past valve checks, no sweat. The only reason I can think that this would cause a problem is if it wasn't done right when it was done last. -- John Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 Thanks for the input. It was like CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK... all from the right cylinder. At 55 MPH it was all I could hear. At low RPMs, just annoying. At idle, there was almost the sound of light sand/gravel in a front fender...only it was from the cylinder. And it's a 99, so the warranty is history. -Eff Link to comment
Aluminum_Butt Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Very cool! Thanks for sharing. Hope you get it back quickly with a tiny repair bill. Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 MY PRECIOUS: now on video! -Eff Link to comment
Haynes Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Neat setup on the pickup vehicle. I wish you luck. Don't forget to fill us in on the outcome. Link to comment
bmwmick Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 MY PRECIOUS: now on video! -Eff Eff, How in the world did you schedule that UGLY yellow bus in the background? : )))))))))) Mick Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 22, 2005 Author Share Posted May 22, 2005 These are the questions in life that there are no answers to! Off with you, to A&J's, for wood-smoked bacon, says I! -Eff Link to comment
flatbutt Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Thanks for the input. It was like CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK... all from the right cylinder. At 55 MPH it was all I could hear. At low RPMs, just annoying. At idle, there was almost the sound of light sand/gravel in a front fender...only it was from the cylinder. And it's a 99, so the warranty is history. -Eff Click click click is how my old airhead used to sound ALL the time. Question, if the valves are way loose what is the consequence? Link to comment
Effervescent Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Just an update. There is such a backlog, they haven't been able to open it up yet. -Eff Link to comment
Effervescent Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 YEAH! It's simply a loose rocker arm on the right cylinder. Something that can be adjusted with the routine valve adjustment. I'm still in shock 'cause it sounded REALLY expensive! -Eff Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 It's simply a loose rocker arm on the right cylinder.How can that happen? Wouldn't a head bolt have to be loose? Link to comment
Effervescent Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 I don't know...talk to me... -Eff Link to comment
ShovelStrokeEd Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Somebody didn't dog down the locknut at the last valve adjustment. The miniscule torque specification for those nuts can lead to problems. Also, most nuts, and I would bet that these are in that category, have a service life. You can only stretch the threads so many times and then you need to change. Many critical applications, such as rod bolts, the nut's life is one tightening. I would suggest to the dealer that he replace all the nuts as a prophylactic measure. Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Somebody didn't dog down the locknut at the last valve adjustment. Am I mis-understanding something here? I've never had to loosen the rocker arm to adjust my valves. I have tried to adjust the rocker arm end play and that involved undoing a head bolt. I just don't see how a head bolt could undo itself, unless it wasn't tightened of course. Link to comment
Francois_Dumas Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Ooooooh.. THAT is the kind of car I should have bought a few weeks ago...... (now I am trying to find a trailer and will have to drive at max. 60 miles/hr all the way to France .. IF I can get one in time ). Link to comment
ShovelStrokeEd Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Bob, I'm pretty sure by Rocker Arm he meant the valve lash adjuster. Link to comment
Effervescent Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 Well, the service manager definately said rocker arm but you might be right. -Eff Link to comment
Stan Walker Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 the service manager definately said rocker arm He might have been talking about the end play on the rocker arm. Excessive play there will be noisy, but causes no harm. Stan Link to comment
AviP Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Sorry, no idea about your problem. But had to comment on that slick tow setup. Fantastic. Link to comment
Effervescent Posted June 18, 2005 Author Share Posted June 18, 2005 So get this, they adjust the rocker arm and the sound is still there! Turns out...tah-dah...alternator Belt coming apart at 29k! -Eff Link to comment
Mr. Frank Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 So get this, they adjust the rocker arm and the sound is still there! Turns out...tah-dah...alternator Belt coming apart at 29k! -Eff Would that be the belt you are supposed to replace at 24K? <BG> Link to comment
Effervescent Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 I was told BMW suggested it at 36k. -Eff Link to comment
Les is more Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Maybe 24k is the interval for the 1100s. 36k is for the 1150s built before the summer of '03 Note: Jamie's 1150RT has chewed through two alternator belts, one at 31,500 and one at 27,000. We think maybe it's the high speed runs through the desert heat or it could be an eccentricity of his bike. Don't know for sure but take the service interval advice on the alternator belt with a grain of salt and always carry a spare. It's a relatively easy roadside repair if you add a 4mm hex wrench to your stock tool kit for removing the alt. belt cover. Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 24k is the interval for the 1100s. 36k is for the 1150s built before the summer of '03Are you sure? 36K was the original interval for 1150s but I was told that BMW had changed that to 24K after numerous failures. Another post here suggested that the interval returned to 36K for post mid '03 1150s as they changed the belt material. Link to comment
Les is more Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 You may well be right, Bob and the performance of the belts on Jamie's bike may be a case in point. I believe our service manual says 36k. Could be that we missed an update somewhere along the line. Link to comment
Mr. Frank Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 You may well be right, Bob and the performance of the belts on Jamie's bike may be a case in point. I believe our service manual says 36k. Could be that we missed an update somewhere along the line. As I recall there were 5-10 belt failures on the last Iron Butt. Possible explanations were around the clock running, high speeds, and high electrical loads from extra lighting and accessories. At the time it struck me as prudent to replace the belt at 24K. That said, mine looked almost new when I replaced it. Link to comment
Bob Palin Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 That said, mine looked almost new when I replaced it. I just put my 4th one on at 88K, the first snapped at 27K, I don't remember the mileages for the other 2 offhand but the 2nd one was split and the third had chewed some of the ribs off. I bet it varies by day of week the bike was made, different people changed each of mine so that wasn't it. Link to comment
SCOTTinNJ Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Myself and 2 riding buddies killed 2 belts last year during an Edelweiss trip in Montana. The bikes both had around 20k on them. We did ride hard for 2 straight days . . . Link to comment
Effervescent Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 ...always carry a spare. It's a relatively easy roadside repair if you add a 4mm hex wrench to your stock tool kit for removing the alt. belt cover. I'm on it! Anymore details on the repair? -Eff Link to comment
stevep1954 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 does anyone know who makes that neat lift that fits in a pu? sorry for pulling this up from the past but it is a very interesting lift. thanks, steve Link to comment
SageRider Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 does anyone know who makes that neat lift that fits in a pu? sorry for pulling this up from the past but it is a very interesting lift. thanks, steve Not the same as shown in this post, but very similar: TKLoader Link to comment
Bud Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Maybe 24k is the interval for the 1100s. 36k is for the 1150s built before the summer of '03 Note: Jamie's 1150RT has chewed through two alternator belts, one at 31,500 and one at 27,000. We think maybe it's the high speed runs through the desert heat or it could be an eccentricity of his bike. Don't know for sure but take the service interval advice on the alternator belt with a grain of salt and always carry a spare. It's a relatively easy roadside repair if you add a 4mm hex wrench to your stock tool kit for removing the alt. belt cover. Since Jamie just put on a new one, is he going to carry the old one for the spare when he has to put one on by the side of the road? Of course, I'm going to ride close to him in case mine goes. Link to comment
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