themenz Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Wondering if this board allows posting of a blatantly commercial message about a new product for riders? Raincoat keeps water off of plastic shields, visors. More info. here> www.motosolutions.com/raincoat.html mod edit: tweaked subject line. Link to comment
Boffin Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 As per the user agreement you carefully read and digested when joining : Rule 10: If you own or are part of a motorcycle related, commercial enterprise you may make a one time announcement to the board. After that you may put a link in your signature line as your only reference to your business. This post constitutes your one-time announcement But it should go in bike related Andy Link to comment
Mr_Ed Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. Link to comment
Quinn Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic? Link to comment
tonyla Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic? I have that for the lexan(sp) windshields Link to comment
Mr_Ed Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic? Ah... Did not know that. In anycase... I still wonder if this product helps in anyway when dealing with a lite mist. I believe that big drops of water are just too easy to shed and that's all the video covers. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. Ed G makes a good point, that mist is a problem on our shields. You get behind a big truck or if you are in a fog, mist causes vision problems. Raincoat makes larger drops fall with gravity almost instantly as you see in the video. As the drops get smaller, Raincoat beads them up and they blow off with the wind. Even the smallest drops bead up and appear smaller but it takes more wind to get rid of them. It is hard to show all that in a 60 second video. Raincoat is not perfect at getting rid of the smallest drops. But it is the best out there by far. And it is guaranteed. If you don't like the way it handles mist, let me know and I will refund your purchase price and shipping. Link to comment
Bud Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition. Ed G makes a good point, that mist is a problem on our shields. You get behind a big truck or if you are in a fog, mist causes vision problems. Raincoat makes larger drops fall with gravity almost instantly as you see in the video. As the drops get smaller, Raincoat beads them up and they blow off with the wind. Even the smallest drops bead up and appear smaller but it takes more wind to get rid of them. It is hard to show all that in a 60 second video. Raincoat is not perfect at getting rid of the smallest drops. But it is the best out there by far. And it is guaranteed. If you don't like the way it handles mist, let me know and I will refund your purchase price and shipping. Wish everything came with that sort of guarantee. Link to comment
Lawman Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 How does it compare to Cat Crap? Link to comment
DiggerJim Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Wish everything came with that sort of guarantee. I haven't tried the latest formulation, but I have to say that I was involved in some of the tests of the product a year or so ago so I can vouch for the effort that was going into getting the formula right. The testing was run in a very disciplined way with results being asked for various precipitation events (rain, mist, snow), differing conditions and on different shields. I got the impression he was serious about getting it right. As an engineering geek type, I appreciate that kind of approach. (no affiliation with the product outside of early testing) Link to comment
keithb Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I have a feeling the inventor/seller is going to make a lot of sales ($$$$$$) with this product. Where do I order? hee, hee. Link to comment
Dick_at_Lake_Tahoe_NV Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it? Link to comment
Matts_12GS Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Me, I just put car wax on my shields or else use copious amounts of HSC on them... Link to comment
Flyer5 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave Link to comment
markgoodrich Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product. Link to comment
xbubblehead Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Appears to work great, thinkin bout getting some myself. Link to comment
EffBee Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 First, how about a name. Just fill in your bio (go to Home Page). It's always nice to know who you're talking to. Second, congratulations on your product. Two questions as they relate to my experiences with Rain-X. Is it safe to use your product on the hard coating that Shoei, Arai and others use on their face shields. And with Rain-X I have had a sudden explosion of glare render me almost blind when the sun hits it at extreme angles. This is both on my bike and on my car's windshield. How does your product handle this? Link to comment
DonD Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 If I were you, I'd contact the editor at www.webbikeworld.com and offer a trial with your this and your antifog product. They've tested a number of antifogging solutions and haven't been satisfied with anything yet. E-mail editor@webbikeworld.com Link to comment
drzep Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I use Rain-X on my Aeroflow windscreen and think it stinks - actually, it doesn't work at all even though they recommend it be used on their screens. Do you think that Raincoat would work better on that type of acrylic than the Rain-X does(n't)? Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 How does it compare to Cat Crap? Well CatCrap is for fogging and I think that Fogtech is better. But I make Fogtech Raincoat does not stop fogging. It is designed for the outside of your visor or shield and causes raindrops to roll off. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 www.motosolutions.com will get you there. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it? OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th? Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes. OK coupon is up. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product. Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends. Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain. I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective. I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen. If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 First, how about a name. Just fill in your bio (go to Home Page). It's always nice to know who you're talking to. Second, congratulations on your product. Two questions as they relate to my experiences with Rain-X. Is it safe to use on the hard coating that Shoei, Arai and others use on their face shields. And with Rain-X I have had a sudden explosion of glare render me almost blind when the sun hits it at extreme angles. This is both on my bike and on my car's windshield. How does your product handle this? Name is done, thanks for suggesting. Raincoat is safe to use on the hardcoats. I tested by soaking an Arai and a Shoei in full strength Raincoat for 2 days. Shields looked the same, no delamination, no color changes and they weighed the same to 1/100th of a gram so nothing was absorbed and nothing was lost. I have not seen any glare. Just make sure you buff briskly and completely turning the cloth often. Use a dry cotton towell or washcloth if you want to make buffing easy. Hold up to a light to see if anything is left. Shield should be glossy and no haze, sparkles or swirls even at night. Link to comment
markgoodrich Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product. Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends. Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain. I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective. I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen. If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge. Uh, I guess my question was a little foggy: I was asking how long the NoFog stuff lasts.... Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 If I were you, I'd contact the editor at www.webbikeworld.com and offer a trial with your this and your antifog product. They've tested a number of antifogging solutions and haven't been satisfied with anything yet. E-mail editor@webbikeworld.com Funny you bring that up. Just got off the phone with Rick. He said he received the product and is going to try to test in two weeks. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 I use Rain-X on my Aeroflow windscreen and think it stinks - actually, it doesn't work at all even though they recommend it be used on their screens. Do you think that Raincoat would work better on that type of acrylic than the Rain-X does(n't)? Well the makers of Rain-X are quite clear it is only for glass. And if you call their helpdesk, they will tell you not to use it on acrylic plastics found on some windshields. The alcohol can leech out the plasticizers. You might end up with a very hazy shield over time. Rain-X did not seem to do much on my polycarbonate shields. Virtually all faceshields are polycarbonate. Raincoat is designed for plastics acrylic, polycarbonate (Lexan) etc. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product. Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends. Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain. I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective. I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen. If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge. Uh, I guess my question was a little foggy: I was asking how long the NoFog stuff lasts.... You would think I would be used to foggy questions. Fogtech lasts 3 to 5 days, but again, it depends. I have guys who get 15 days and others that are happy they get one day. Depends on humidity, how much heat/moisture you breathe or sweat, air flow, temperature and type of shield. YMMV as they say. Link to comment
drzep Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Thank you sir. I'll give it a try. But just to clarify - it was at the urging of Aeroflow that I put Rain-ex on the screen. I saw those big, bold "not for plastic" warnings on the bottle and it made me feel a touch weak in the knees right before I dumped it on my $300 screen! Link to comment
Dick_at_Lake_Tahoe_NV Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it? I just ordered Raincoat and Fogtech, it'll be interesting to try both of them. Also please note the coupon should be BMW OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th? Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes. OK coupon is up. OK, I just ordered Raincoat and Fogtech, please note the coupon code should be: BMWSportTouring Link to comment
drzep Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th? Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes. OK coupon is up. Just for those placing an order: its "BMWSportTouring". Can't wait! Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I'll give them both a try.......I've been fighting rain and/or fog almost everyday for the past two weeks. Link to comment
Mr_Ed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th? Just enter BMWSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes. OK coupon is up. Gosh Golly.. Can't say "No" to a coupon code. Order has been submitted. I have a Scorpion helmet with one of those "no fog" shields.. doesn't work for me at all..in fact it's worse than a shield with no coating. I look forward to giving both products a try. Link to comment
Bud Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I just ordered and we will see how it works Link to comment
xbubblehead Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I just ordered and we will see how it works The power of the web site. I will be testing mine when I go to Nova Scotia at the end of May. Hopefully, not to much testing. themenz - thanks for the discount for the members. Link to comment
Flyer5 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave I guess I should have waited . Link to comment
pedro cerveza Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I use quite a bit of Plexus on my shield. Will it remove your product? Link to comment
ozmojo Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I just bought both products ... now if I only had a helmet. Link to comment
zamalou Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Didn't get the discount, but was going to try anyway... Link to comment
MikeB60 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I just got my shipment of Raincoat and Fogtech. Haven't tried the Raincoat yet but the Fogtech worked better than anything I've used before including cat crap and that Zooke stuff they sell at the bike shows. Two hour ride with temps between 35 and 40 including fog in the low areas. Not a spot of fog in my Shoei RF1000. I'm sold! I've got to go to Pensacola tomorrow and it looks like rain. Should get a chance to check out the Raincoat tomorrow. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave Hey send me your address and I will shoot some Fogtech to you for being an early bird. gene (at) motosolutions (dot) com Link to comment
themenz Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 I use quite a bit of Plexus on my shield. Will it remove your product? It might. Raincoat hangs on pretty good, but Plexus is a good cleaner. I have not tried to remove Raincoat with it. Try it and let me know. gene (at) motosolutions (dot) com Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I just received my raincoat and fogtech last night as well. I'm heading for NC next Wednesday and the 10 day forecast is looking iffy.......I'm kinda looking forward to see how well it all works. Link to comment
Nevets Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 OK, just purchased some of each. I'll report back how they work. We definitely have all types of "moisture" here in Michigan. I hope the Fogtech works, as it’s a problem every morning for me lately. I’m also really interested how the Raincoat could work on the (factory) windshield. Link to comment
Francis Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Ho will your products work on the Schuberth visors with the coating they have on the inside and the outside? They recomed only water to clean their visors. Link to comment
themenz Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 Ho will your products work on the Schuberth visors with the coating they have on the inside and the outside? They recomed only water to clean their visors. I always recommend that you follow the manufacturer's instructions. The anti-fog coating on the inside is soft and sensitive to chemicals. I have tried Fogtech over many anti-fogs coatings on safety glasses, paintball masks and an older Schuberth. Fogtech did not seem to impact the anti-fog layer. As a matter of fact, it made the anti-fog effect even better. That being said, I would wait until the manufacturer applied coating stops works or show signs of fogging. Then apply Fogtech. I have not tried Raincoat over the anti-fog coatings and I would not suggest you try that. Raincoat is usually used on the outside of the shield. Link to comment
xbubblehead Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I received my Raincoat and apply it to three different helmets, a Shoei, Arai, and a Nolan N102 Ncom, and with lots o rain today. Great day to do some testing. Worked great on all three just as advertised. I didn't get any Fogtech because I normally use the Nolan with the antifog insert - so I can't speak on that. Link to comment
Flyer5 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I haven't had chance to ride in the rain yet, probably next week. The fog tech works great. There is a rise between the hills on my way to work that every morning I would get a fogged face shield and wind shield . No more since using the fog tech . Only applied once in the last 2 weeks so far so good . Thanks for a great product . Dave Link to comment
Michael_T Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just ordered some and was wondering if there is a "shelf life" on either products? Michael Link to comment
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