Application chart for brake pads?

[WaywardSon]

Dumb question I suppose, but not the first time. I'm looking to buy a set of replacement brake pads just to have on hand when the time comes...no problem finding OEM pads, but not paying $65+ per set.

 

Any thoughts/opinions on what I need and where to get them?

 

'96 R1100RT

[Joe Frickin' Friday]

You'll get lots of answers, but my personal preference is for EBC's HH pads, which require less lever force for a given vehicle decel rate, a nice thing in tight twisties. Can be had from pretty much any cycle shop; you can walk in and tell 'em what bike you have and they'll find your part #'s in their big universal catalog, or check EBC's website and find the part #'s yourself before heading in.

[John Montoya]

I like Galfer organic pads because they are easier on the rotors. They also come in three compounds. Black, Blue, or Green. They also make an HH pad. I use the Blue Kevlar Endurance on the front and the Black on the rear.

http://www.cyclebrakes.com/ They sell EBC too.

[BUSTED]

I get great performance from EBC FA 246 front and FA 245 rear pad sets.

[WaywardSon]

Found the website & got the part #'s. Thanks!

 

O'Reilly's can order the EBC pads. Part numbers are:

 

Front FA407HH

Rear FA363HH

 

No prices yet, but will check with CycleBrakes & probably others.

 

Thanks again for the help.

[John Montoya]

This may pertain to you, the stock pads have a little clip rivited to them that keeps the pads from rattling in the calipers. You may need to remove the rivet, and put the clip on your new pads depending on the manufacturer of the pad. (The last set I bought already had them.) I found some copper rivets at my local hardware store and set them with a punch. No problem.

[John Montoya]

I don't think you would want an HH pad on the rear. They have a lot of stopping power, but since most guys don't use the rear much or just trail the rear into a corner, a standard compound might be better. The HH pad may have too much initial bite. That's the cool thing about pads other than stock, it can be tailored to your needs.

[RFW]

I don't think you would want an HH pad on the rear. They have a lot of stopping power...

They pretty much all have the same "stopping power". The main difference at normal speeds is simply how hard you have to step on the rear brake pedal to get that stopping power. After all, any brake pad is capable of locking up the rear wheel.

[wolcott]

For the older R1100RT's at least, someone PM'd me and told me that the EBC front FA 246 pads have been superceded (is that the correct word?) to part # FA 407. He also said that his front pads came with the spring clip already attached so no screwing around with trying to rivet the dang clip anymore. Also, if you are trying to order from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse, it is best to call in person as their website is not updated with the most current info + part numbers.

[John Dickens]

For the older R1100RT's at least, someone PM'd me and told me that the EBC front FA 246 pads have been superceded (is that the correct word?) to part # FA 407. He also said that his front pads came with the spring clip already attached so no screwing around with trying to rivet the dang clip anymore. Also, if you are trying to order from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse, it is best to call in person as their website is not updated with the most current info + part numbers.

 

That's right. The new EBC front pad comes with the antisqueal/rattle springs already fitted so no more messing around.

 

FA407 front

FA363 rear

 

If you want sintered HH pads just add HH to the above part numbers.

[WaywardSon]

For the older R1100RT's at least, someone PM'd me and told me that the EBC front FA 246 pads have been superceded (is that the correct word?) to part # FA 407. He also said that his front pads came with the spring clip already attached so no screwing around with trying to rivet the dang clip anymore. Also, if you are trying to order from Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse, it is best to call in person as their website is not updated with the most current info + part numbers.

 

That's right. The new EBC front pad comes with the antisqueal/rattle springs already fitted so no more messing around.

 

FA407 front

FA363 rear

 

If you want sintered HH pads just add HH to the above part numbers.

 

Got a price today from CycleBrakes, $32.50 per caliper for the above pads (HH). Haven't checked anywhere else.

[ESokoloff]

Can someone tell me if the 1150's pads (front & rear) are the same as the 1100's?

TIA

[John Dickens]

I think they're different. The 1100 RT used Brembo calipers but the 1150 has Nissin I believe.

[smiller]

Are the HH pads harder on the rotors?

[ESokoloff]

I think they're different. The 1100 RT used Brembo calipers but the 1150 has Nissin I believe.

 

Negative on that.

The other unknown would be if you mixed fronts & back with different types (say HH vs. stock) what would that do to the balance of the fully linked 1150 system

 

I see no harm in changing style if all are the same.

[ESokoloff]

Are the HH pads harder on the rotors?

 

Thats my understanding

[Joe Frickin' Friday]

Are the HH pads harder on the rotors?

 

Everyone says that, but I don't know of any firm data. My rotors reached the wear limit at about 100K miles, and I replaced them at that point. I expect rotor wear will vary widely depending on the type of riding one does; I don't know how long rotors would last for identical riding with stock pads, but 100K miles is good enough for me.

[WaywardSon]

According to the application chart and other info on EBC's website http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ the HH pads are NOT harder on rotors.

 

The 1150 takes:

Front FA335

Rear FA363

 

You can download the application chart in Excel format at their website.

[keithb]

"I don't know how long rotors would last for identical riding with stock pads, but 100K miles is good enough for me".

 

+1 Mitch.

[smiller]

Everyone says that, but I don't know of any firm data. My rotors reached the wear limit at about 100K miles, and I replaced them at that point. I expect rotor wear will vary widely depending on the type of riding one does; I don't know how long rotors would last for identical riding with stock pads, but 100K miles is good enough for me.

I just asked because sintered metallic pads are supposedly harder on rotors than organic pads or so the legend goes, although like you I've never seen any real data to support this.

 

FWIW I am at 92k miles and have used EBC 'Black' ever since the original equipment pads wore out. Right now the front rotors are at about half of the wear limit (4.7-4.8mm where 5.0mm is the new spec and 4.5mm is the wear limit.) I am frankly amazed that wear is so low at this mileage. I'm not assuming that this is in any way related to pad choice though as there are likely way too many differences in the usage patrterns between any two bikes of our age and mileage to make a meaningful comparison.

 

The EBC site rates the organic pads as having 'low' and the HH as having 'minimal' disc damage characteristics so apparently they feel that there is some difference, but that it is small. In any event I agree that 100k miles is a plenty acceptable life for the rotors (although those suckers are expensive.) Having some kind of wear baseline I think I'll try the HH pads and see if they make any difference over the next 92k miles...