yechave Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Anyone use these to carry spare gas on a trip? I just pulled one out of storage, and it states it can be used to transport gas, kerosene, diesel and petroleum products, carries 22 ozs. I might take one or two on the upcoming trip to Skyline Drive/Blueridge Parkway. We have found in the past, some long stretches between gas stations, or their being closed on occasion. That was using a van with a 35 gal tank and a 400 mile range. Lucky for the us, we were able to buy fuel from an independent, very small, 1940's, one pump gas station in the middle of nowhere, that only took cash. Don't want to be having that experience with the BMW.
barncobob Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 works great for martinis too, the olives just go through the spout.
bakerzdosen Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Yep - I have one I just used this past weekend. Two words of advice: 1) Be VERY careful filling it. Some pumps will spray you with gas if you're not gentle on the trigger. DAMHIK. 2) There is a fill line (on the outside of my MSR). There are two reasons to actually follow the manufacturer's advice on that one and NOT fill it above that line. a) most stoves need that air space to clear their lines when you're done. b) you should have an air space there to allow for expansion of the gas. It also came in handy when we woke up to a couple hours of rain while camping. A little 89 octane on the wet wood worked wonders. (alliteration intended )
elkroeger Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 I carry an extra quart on trips. I use the Sigg bottles, simply because I already have them. MSR is a better quality unit, as it's designed to take (more) pressure. I've been told by a friend that these little bottles are a bad idea because they are not vented. Any change in temp/elevation/etc. will change the pressure, and then you have a pressurized vessel full of gas which is bad news in a wreck. I can see the point, but I'm not sure that I agree with it.
yechave Posted October 21, 2007 Author Posted October 21, 2007 MSR states it can be used for "transporting any petroleum based fuel." I am going to see if there are any inexpensive neoprene sleeves at Walmart to prevent the cansiter from making noise in the luggage. Sounds like too good an idea, not to carry some extra fuel. More so on a bike we've only owned for three weeks. Appreciate the feedback!
jbr7t Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 I've used these canisters for camping and hiking. They work great. I didn't think about it for my bike, but I think I might add one to my packing list for my next trip! Thanks for good idea!! As for the elevation and temperature change and expansion/contraction...just open it slowly.
MarkEngland Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 I carry an extra quart on trips. I use the Sigg bottles, simply because I already have them. MSR is a better quality unit, as it's designed to take (more) pressure. I've been told by a friend that these little bottles are a bad idea because they are not vented. Any change in temp/elevation/etc. will change the pressure, and then you have a pressurized vessel full of gas which is bad news in a wreck. I can see the point, but I'm not sure that I agree with it. I agree. I carry a gatorade bottle with me wrapped really well when I go on my long rides, etc. Its been about 3 years and works well. Noramlly I empty the bottle (and trash it) after each 1-2 day ride so the fuel never eats through the plastic. I got this idea from past days desert racing (dirt). I know its not vented, etc., but I did an IBA across the Nevada desert last June (114 degrees), and my bottle of fuel remained nicely cool in my saddle bag. So far I others have needed more than me. http://kc6tew.com/rallies/2007utah1088/P6190003.JPG
yechave Posted October 21, 2007 Author Posted October 21, 2007 We traveled at an off time of year with the van and had some problems, fueling was few and far between, food even more of a problem, on that "off the beaten path" venture. Don't even want to consider waiting for AAA when I already have the bottles. Now, the queston is can you use the stove fuel in a pinch, instead of wasting what is already in the canister?
Beemr69 Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 Now, the queston is can you use the stove fuel in a pinch, instead of wasting what is already in the canister? Am I reading correctly , are You asking if You can use stove fuel in your Rt , I think not .
ShovelStrokeEd Posted October 22, 2007 Posted October 22, 2007 Jeebus, will you just go for the ride already!!! I have ridden all over this country and never had a situation where I was more than 100 miles from a fuel supply. If you think you might be, stop at every opportunity or any time you have more than 100 miles on your odometer. That should give you more than ample margin.
GoGo Gadget Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Now, the queston is can you use the stove fuel in a pinch, instead of wasting what is already in the canister? Am I reading correctly , are You asking if You can use stove fuel in your Rt , I think not . I was tempted. I ran out of gas 5 miles outside of Roswell NM. Damn aliens abducted a gallon from my tank. I had a 22oz can mostly full of camp fuel. My stove will use unleaded, but camp fuel burns cleaner so I filled it up with that planning on using fuel from the bike if I ran out. I should have planned the other way.
motoguy128 Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Camp fuel (white gas?), Kerosene, Diesel and Jet-A, are all closely related and can probably be mixed together in some ratio ot run acceptably on a diesel engine. However, on a gasoline engine... No way. Not enough engine compression for igntion, incorrect timing and not enough pressure in the fuel system from the injectors for the fuel viscosity and density to name a few preblems. Even if it did ignite, the bottom end, piston and cylinders are probably too weak to handle the force produced. I believe more energy is released per combustion cycle. I've never crossed the desert on back roads, but I'd be suprised that you'd be able to go 300 miles without a gas station.
DavidEBSmith Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 This discussion suggests otherwise (on the Coleman fuel/white gas question).
ghaverkamp Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 I've never crossed the desert on back roads, but I'd be suprised that you'd be able to go 300 miles without a gas station. Miss the last station in Austin at 8 PM, and you've got 260 miles on US 50 in Nevada before you get to Ely and all-night service. And while it may be lonely, it's hardly a backroad. I ran out of gas one time about 10 miles short of Austin (just stupidity, really.) Had a bicyclist stop and give me the remaining little bit of gas from his stove cannister. That didn't get me started even, but it allow me to go a little further. (All told, I was on the side of the road for about 15 minutes. A motorcyclist came by shortly thereafter and said he'd send help from Austin. Some guys admiring his R1200C in Austin brought me gas minutes later, and I was on my way.)
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