TEWKS Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 BMW has kept this bike under tight wraps so far. This bike IMHO when released will be a hit. If you believe what you read on the web, we should be seeing the real thing in August. These are a couple of unofficial pictures floating around of the bike. What do you think? Pat Link to comment
OoPEZoO Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I think it looks like.......um ah......a GS? Looks great. Should be a nice compromise between the 650 and a 1200. Is that a belt drive? I'm ignorant when it comes to the on road/off road scene (we don't have many places like that to ride around here), but that seems like a surpise to me. I wonder how well it will hold up under abusive conditions? Are there any other dual sport bikes running a belt drive? Link to comment
W. Mazelin Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 It looks pretty cool; I haven't ridden one of the new 800s yet. I might have to take a spin on a GS for grins & giggles. Link to comment
GregB Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Neither of these are anything "real". They are both created by combining various parts of a real F800S or ST and a real R1200GS. Examples: Unprotected engine, skid plate hanging in thin air and "mounted" at 20 degrees off angle, belt drive, etc. I do want to look at the F800GS but these don't actually help. Link to comment
smiller Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Should be a nice compromise between the 650 and a 1200.Yes, although the F650GS is already too heavy for anything resembling tough stuff. That consideration aside I think an F800GS would make for an excellent motorcycle and I am going to guess that they will sell like crazy. Link to comment
11101110 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I think an F800GS would make for an excellent motorcycle and I am going to guess that they will sell like crazy. I'm going to start saving now. Hopefully it will be more that a 650 with a 800 engine. I wasn't entirely comfortable on the 650gs. Link to comment
baggerchris Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I put the Happy Trail's highway bar and grill on the front of Pepper and together with the Cee Bailey screen and foam ear plugs, long distance travel is very nice. I am hoping for a tubeless tire option (like the 1200) and better wind noise abatement on the 800. I will be ready to buy in two years which seems about right. If they introduce it this year, it will have a little time under it's belt to work out the bugs. Link to comment
Santron Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Funny...I was at Long Beach BMW yesterday and mentioned something about an F800GS and he adamantly stated that it was only a rumor and there is no such bike. Yet. Link to comment
roadscholar Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 It could be that BMW has created a dilemma with this bike. If the GS and possible RT versions are as good as the ST, and why wouldn't they be, it (they) might drastically cut into the sales of the 1200GS and RT, I think their two biggest sellers. They could have close to the same performance (with the probable exception of two-up), be much lighter, and would cost less initially and over a long period. We may see them eventually and I'd bet later than sooner, but I hope not. The ST is a wonderful motorcycle, and any other variance of it would get a lot of prospective buyers (first time and otherwise) into the showroom, myself included. Link to comment
StuGotz Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I think BMW will be heading towards a smaller displacement enduro type of thing. A 800 GS makes no sense for BMW. They have the market in large displacement "adventure" bikes (1200), they already have (3) 650's(street, dualsport, dirt)...I think they will be heading towards the smaller displacement " enduro" type in the near future( BTW, they own Husky now). As another member noted, it would make sense to corner a portion of KTM's market. Look at the success they have had with a 450 prototype...some revolutionary stuff going on with it ( see this months Motorcyclist magazine) ... just my 2c MB> Link to comment
roadscholar Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 This could be true. they already have (3) 650's(street, dualsport, dirt)... Here's a juicy rumor, last week someone who may (or may not be) in the know told me two of the three G650's were being discontinued. With the acquisition of Husqvarna, the strategy for their small displacement bikes could be getting completely revamped. Link to comment
AZ-J Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 It is coming; see it here: F800riders.org Link to comment
TEWKS Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share Posted August 12, 2007 BMW has kept this bike under tight wraps so far. This bike IMHO when released will be a hit. If you believe what you read on the web, we should be seeing the real thing in August. These are a couple of unofficial pictures floating around of the bike. What do you think? This picture has been posted here before but, I thought I would add it to the other pictures of the F800gs. I like this one the best so far. Pat Link to comment
TEWKS Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 A fuzzy picture simular to the last one. Cast wheels & no bags. Pat Link to comment
TEWKS Posted October 31, 2007 Author Share Posted October 31, 2007 Could this be the real deal? It's interesting but, I'll have to see a few more pictures before I'm ready to talk with my friendly banker. Pat Link to comment
TEWKS Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Yes, Mr. banker, I NEED LOTS OF MONEY! Pat Link to comment
Firefight911 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Yes, Mr. banker, I NEED LOTS OF MONEY! Pat I have MANY strong words for you for posting that!! Not too many of them are nice ones either!! Good Grief Charlie Brown!!!!!! Drooling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
fourteenfour Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 what helmet is he wearing? Link to comment
bikebits Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The BMW Enduro helmet. More info here: http://specials.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/products/riderspoint/index.html Link to comment
TEWKS Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 Caution! Dirty video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCeC2K_fBUg Pat Link to comment
EffBee Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Yup, dat's da one. MSRP is $10,520. ABS is an $895 option. Heated grips come as part of a $695 package that includes the trip computer and a few other gizmo's. It's got a CANbus system, so adding accessories (do we do that?) will involve the typical Touratech or Centech CANbus bypass setup. More to follow. Link to comment
LuckyLeif Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Any specs on dimensions, esp saddle height? Would be nice to see something less than 33 inch. Link to comment
Lets_Play_Two Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yup, dat's da one. MSRP is $10,520. ABS is an $895 option. Heated grips come as part of a $695 package that includes the trip computer and a few other gizmo's. It's got a CANbus system, so adding accessories (do we do that?) will involve the typical Touratech or Centech CANbus bypass setup. More to follow. Is the ABS switchable? Link to comment
dyvking Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Per the article in Motorcycle-USA , 392 lbs dry, 85 hp, 61 ft-lbs torque, 4.2 gallons of fuel. Link to comment
HappyMan Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Per the article in Motorcycle-USA , 392 lbs dry, 85 hp, 61 ft-lbs torque, 4.2 gallons of fuel. Hmmmm, that puts it about 50 lbs less than the KTM 990 ADV. Very interesting. Buying a new bike is becoming a lot of fun!! Link to comment
bakerzdosen Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Any specs on dimensions, esp saddle height? Would be nice to see something less than 33 inch. No Heat posted this in the other thread, but the seat height is gonna be 33 inches after all... The f650gs will be 31. Press Release Link to comment
TEWKS Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 I believe you can switch the ABS off for dirt duty. There's a ABS button on the left handlebar switchgear. I assume it's to deactivate the ABS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JKUeFastwo&NR=1 Pat Link to comment
dyvking Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 The BMW press release states that the optional ABS is switchable! Seat heights: 880mm and 850mm (low seat option) Link to comment
LocoOper Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Just an observation, but I noticed that in some of the pics in this thread the GS has hand guards and engine protection. are these just for show or options? Also are the handlebars Magura Fatbars or some other brand. If fatbars there are so many options for hand guards it would make for endless combinations. Additionally, the engine protection looks like a good spot for hwy pegs . Just a thought, I would like to see a catalog of optional items if there is one yet. I can't wait for this bike to hit the colonies, I might have to let the RT go and get this one! Link to comment
Mark P Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Just a thought, I would like to see a catalog of optional items if there is one yet. I can't wait for this bike to hit the colonies I saw the bike at the Motorcycle & Scooter show at Birmingham (here in the UK - not the other one) this week. The options are; ABS Computer Heated Grips Clear indicator lenses Luggage (I can't recall any more - working only from memory here) I liked the bike very much and like you I might be tempted to trade my RT for one - it'll be in Dealer showrooms here early in 2008 and I hope to get to ride one then Link to comment
Mark P Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I should have added that it seems that hand guards and engine guards are not part of the standard specification - I don't recall them being listed on the display as options, but they'll be in the accessory list no doubt. Link to comment
HappyMan Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 There's a mad rush to get one and be the first on the block to have one. I think I might wait until I can get a better deal. Perhaps even used..? Link to comment
HexHead Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Any specs on dimensions, esp saddle height? Would be nice to see something less than 33 inch. Seat height is the same as R1200GS in the lower position and about 1/4" taller than R1200GS in the upper position. Link to comment
Firefight911 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I should have added that it seems that hand guards and engine guards are not part of the standard specification - I don't recall them being listed on the display as options, but they'll be in the accessory list no doubt. By looking at the pics of the GS, I would have to say that the handguards shown are the exact same as those I just installed on my G 650 X Challenge. LINKY Link to comment
camille Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 BMW listed the seat height as 34.6" at the San Mateo motorcycle show: Wish BMW would make some bikes that weren't so 'kin tall. Link to comment
Rich_O Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Darn. I like the F800GS. When looking at the 650 (too small) and the 1200 (too big), the 800 is just what I would have designed. I'm not finding any specs on BMW's website, but I thought I read that the seat height was 32 or so. In any case, It shouldn't be too hard to drop 2 inches and still have plenty of ground clearance. Also, the seat is narrow which helps when putting feet down. My bike was about 30" with a standard road type seat. I sat on an R1200GS (standard, not ADV) with 33.1" seat height and the my reach for the ground was about the same or better because of the narrower seat. Link to comment
TEWKS Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 More pics & video of the F800gs. http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/Reviews/2008_BMW_F_800_GS.htm Pat Link to comment
Marty Hill Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Looking forward to oct. Link to comment
rvb1019 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Forget October... My guess is December at the earliest. Anyway you slice it, the 08 800GS is going to be an '09. According to the BMWMOA website, BMW is blaming the weak US dollar. However, you can order one in Canada next month: http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22802&highlight=800 Link to comment
RichEdwards Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Saw one yesterday at Daytona. I like the lightness. I did not like the spoked wheels that require tube-tires. Link to comment
velomoto Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Forget October... My guess is December at the earliest. Anyway you slice it, the 08 800GS is going to be an '09. According to the BMWMOA website, BMW is blaming the weak US dollar. Ummmm waiting isn't going to get BMW a stronger US dollar. I'd suggest reducing manufacturing costs or profit margin expectations. $13K for a nicely equip'd 800 seems a bit steep, but that's just one man's opinion. Raising the price to $14K due to a weak dollar isn't going to change that. Link to comment
baggerchris Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Be careful what you wish for. I know that they are now, or will be in the near future making some of the 650 single cylinder engines in CHINA!!! Woe unto us if they start making other engines there. How about a Chinese Boxer? Could we then call that a: "Boxer Rebellion"? Link to comment
John Bentall Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Be careful what you wish for. I know that they are now, or will be in the near future making some of the 650 single cylinder engines in CHINA!!! Woe unto us if they start making other engines there. How about a Chinese Boxer? Could we then call that a: "Boxer Rebellion"? What hard evidence do you have that the engines made by Loncin are of a lower quality than those made by Rotax? If you have any, you should report this to BMW AG. Link to comment
baggerchris Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 None, but who would want to pay a premium price for a Chinese product at this point in time? And furthermore, I don't need no stinkin proof. If BMW wants to start making their engines in China (or the entire bike for that matter), I don't care. There are lots of good makes out there. Maybe Chinese products will eventually reach optimum levels like the Japanese, but frankly, they are not there yet, and I don't want to be an owner of a Chinese Beemer. If you do, fine. Link to comment
Tizone Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Man... I think that this bike in yellow is just gorgeous! I would kill for one of these.... Link to comment
Traveler Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Chinese products aren't held in very high regard in the U.S. right now. Inserting lead etc into our kids toys is a bit unacceptable. Not to mention putting glycol into dog food. PCB's into plastics etc. Don't know about engine build quality, but the GM products builts for their domestic market are marginal at best. I'm sure that BMW is aware of this. Link to comment
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