CT_Rider Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I purchased two Kenwood 3101 radios. The seller programmed to the specs below which means nothing to me. He said it was pretty "standard". Can someone comment? Thanks! GMRS-1 Duplex 462.5500 467.5500 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 2 GMRS-1 TalkaRound 462.5500 462.5500 Wide High 3 GMRS-2 Duplex 462.5750 467.5750 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 4 GMRS-2 TalkaRound 462.5750 462.5750 Wide High 5 GMRS-3 Duplex 462.6000 467.6000 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 6 GMRS-3 TalkaRound 462.6000 462.6000 Wide High 7 GMRS-4 Duplex 462.6250 467.6250 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 8 GMRS-4 TalkaRound 462.6250 462.6250 Wide High 9 GMRS-5 Duplex 462.6500 467.6500 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 10 GMRS-5 TalkaRound 462.6500 462.6500 Wide High 11 GMRS-6 Duplex 462.6750 467.6750 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 12 GMRS-6 TalkaRound 462.6750 462.6750 Wide High 13 GMRS-7 Duplex 462.7000 467.7000 Wide 141.3 141.3 High 14 GMRS-7 TalkaRound 462.7000 462.7000 Wide High 15 GMRS-8 Duplex 462.7250 467.7250 Wide 141.3 141.3 High Link to comment
drzep Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bump. I'd like to know as well. I know some of them work well for B2B and some of them seem to suck. Gurus please emerge... Link to comment
MTRREF Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I purchased two Kenwood 3101 radios. The seller programmed to the specs below which means nothing to me. He said it was pretty "standard". Can someone comment? Your radio needs to be reprogrammed to be useful. The "duplex" channels are programmed to work with repeaters and you'll probably not find many of those. A repeater is sort of a relay radio that recieves a low power signal and retransmits, using more power, on a different frequency. You can use the "TalkaRound" channels -- the even numbers. Jim Link to comment
Armando Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I bought a tk3101 last year and was also programmed to specific frequencies that were useless to me. I did some searches online and found the manual which provides instructions on how to reprogram the untit to standard channels. I don't have the website you I am sure if you google it, you will find it. a Link to comment
Sidmariner Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I bought a total of four TK3101s on eBay over the last month (two and then two more) to use with my Autocom equipment. They arrived with only channel 1 programmed so a fellow rider on this site kindly sent me the programming software and I bought a programming cable locally from a Kenwood repair centre. It took me an hour or so to figure out the old DOS software, but in the end the programming was quick and easy. I basically "scanned" the freqs from a friends radio and then "copied" them to mine. I checked out the frequencies and determined they all fell within the range authorized in the US and Canada for Family Radio Service. I had to scan the DOS printout so I apologize for the quality: Link to comment
Scarver Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 It took me an hour or so to figure out the old DOS software, but in the end the programming was quick and easy. Thanks for sharing! What computer and OS did you use for this? Tried this code on an old laptop with Windows 98 and it seems to work OK but still need to build/buy the KPG-22 programming cable. Want to change the first 7 interstitial channels to Narrow FM so my friends with Chatterbox FRS systems can hear me without distortion. The difference in deviation specs between FRS and GMRS and the increased power of the TK3101 makes our signal almost useless to them; i.e., garbled. Link to comment
Sidmariner Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 As it turns out XP still has a DOS functionality that allowed me to run the program on my desktop. I used a serial cable to make the connection. The zip file contains an extensive help manual that was useful. Link to comment
Scarver Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Thanks! You are correct - opened up just fine on XP. Now to get the cable... Link to comment
allikanbe Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I bought one used Kenwood. Is there a way to find out what channels are set on the radio? I can assume the channels are set from the factory, but I don't have a second Kenwood to check the channels. Link to comment
Sidmariner Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 The freqs have probably been set by a previous owner which could have been anything from a commercial business to a government agency. The ones I bought only had two of 15 channels programmed, obviously to keep it simple for the employees who used them. With all of the private coding available on the model. you really have to have the software and cable to read the frequencies. The programme will scan the radio and print out a list like the one I posted above. If you have more than one radio, or are joining a group using Kenwoods, you can just leave the freqs up on the displayed page, pull the cable off the master radio and then plug in each unit successively "writing" the same freqs into memory. I programmed four in about five minutes this way. Trust me, it is definitely a lot simpler than using the PTT button and counting beeps like the manual suggests, which won't work anyway if some of the channels have been locked out (unprogrammed). I ride with a group of buddies and my brother. In the last six weeks our little group has accumulated six complete outfits, which we can now pass around before setting out on a ride. One day, I think it would be cool if we all agreed on one FRS freq to use as our "hailing channel" (like 9 on CB or 16 on VHF) just to pass info as we meet on the road. Sometime a wave just leaves you wondering. Link to comment
R4ND0M_AX3 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 ...Trust me, it is definitely a lot simpler than using the PTT button and counting beeps like the manual suggests, which won't work anyway if some of the channels have been locked out (unprogrammed).... Wait. So it is possible to change the frequencies used without a PC? I've been looking for a GMRS setup but have been put off by what appears to be locked down programming. Being able to adapt on the road with other riders with different radios is a requirement. Why can't I get the interface like the FRS cheapies get? Link to comment
Sidmariner Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Actually no, you can't set the frequencies on the channels but you can set "Quiet Tone" coding. From the manual "QT allows you to hear only signals on your channel which are coded to match your transceiver. When a received signal has a code different from the one set up in you transceiver, squelch will not open and you will not hear the signal. Likewise, when yo trasmit on a channel set up with QT, the receiving station must have a matching code in order to hear your signal. So, there are situations where two radios can have the same freqs but can't work with each other. There is a way of checking the QT settings on the radio by pressing the squelch button and turning on the radio in a specific sequence. For the best explanation of this download the free manual for the TK3101 at: http://www.446user.co.uk/modules.php?op=...req=MostPopular Link to comment
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