pickersgill1 Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4GDsehURZc&mode=related&search= Spent 5 hours today with twelve other riders being trained for slow riding & around cones, after watching this video I have a lot of practising to do! Link to comment
AviP Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Those guys are great at slow speeds. It's the high speed stuff they suck at. But if it's CHP, then it's perfect for a slow speed highway chase. Link to comment
JayW Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 One of the things I like about motorcycling is that riding well is a learned skill, usually with room for improvement in smoothness, throttle control, braking, environmental awareness, and yes, slow speed maneuvering. I will likely never be as good as this guy, but I have worked on my own skills over the past year and am a better rider now for it. Clips like this keep me humble, and also keep me reaching to be better. I noticed that he knocked over a couple of cones , so he has not yet "arrived" either. Jay Link to comment
HappyMan Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 One of the things I like about motorcycling is that riding well is a learned skill, usually with room for improvement in smoothness, throttle control, braking, environmental awareness, and yes, slow speed maneuvering. I will likely never be as good as this guy, but I have worked on my own skills over the past year and am a better rider now for it. Clips like this keep me humble, and also keep me reaching to be better. I noticed that he knocked over a couple of cones , so he has not yet "arrived" either. Jay You read my mind. Keeps me humble and raises the bar. I'm always working on my slow speed skills and quite frankly I'm darn good at it. This guy threw that bike around quite nicely. I won't be cocky again for another couple of days. Link to comment
Mark P Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Those guys are great at slow speeds. It's the high speed stuff they suck at. It seems that US Police spend a lot of time on the slow speed stuff, whereas here in the UK Police training seems much more focused on high speeds - especially on being able to ride rapidly and safely! Link to comment
MotorinLA Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 It seems that US Police spend a lot of time on the slow speed stuff, whereas here in the UK Police training seems much more focused on high speeds - especially on being able to ride rapidly and safely! I don’t know what purpose motorcycle officers serve in the UK, however, in the US it is mostly as traffic officers. As a traffic officer in the city there is a limited amount of high speed riding and a lot more need for being able to operate in heavier traffic density, which usually equates to lower speeds. Thus, more weigh is placed on low speed handling and maneuvering skills. Yes, yes, I know the CHP rides motorcycles, however, these officers are generally assigned to metropolitan areas where, you guessed it, heavier traffic density. The number of CHP officers on motorcycles is very small compared to the number of CHP officers in cars. My $.02. Link to comment
pickersgill1 Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hi Police in the UK mainly use Honda ST1300 ABS Pan European, then BMW R1150RT & now are changinging to Yamaha FJR1300AS. This follows highspeed accidents involing the Honda, which create wobble after 120 mph probably do to weight of equippment. These bikes are used usually for getting to incidents at high speed, traffic speed persuit & genral escort duties of large loads. On our regular Wednesday bike meeting we usually have police bikes showing a presence. Link to comment
MotorinLA Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 These bikes are used usually for getting to incidents at high speed, traffic speed persuit & genral escort duties of large loads. Apparently the mission of motorcycle officers is a little different in the UK, although there are police departments in the US that also use motorcycles for rapid response incidents. Our department looked into deploying a rapid response team outfitted with dual purpose motorcycles. These motorcycle officers would not be traffic officers, rather they would be patrol officers on motorcycles. However, the proposal never reached fruition. Many LE agencies (at least in So. Cal.) have policies in place that require motorcycle officers to relinquish high speed pursuits to officers in cars, whenever possible. I think most officers/people would agree that it is safer to pursue a suspect in a car than on a motorcycle (unless of course you are the lead officer in the pursuit and you happen to be on a motorcycle…). Link to comment
pickersgill1 Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hi Strange really we only have police with possibly 98% not armed as there is no need as here in the UK it is only farmers & such who may have shot guns. We do not have sheriffs, state trooper, highway police etc, just the regular policeman. They may have stab vests, stick/trunsion & possbly pepper spray. Link to comment
Mark P Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Many LE agencies (at least in So. Cal.) have policies in place that require motorcycle officers to relinquish high speed pursuits to officers in cars, whenever possible. I think most officers/people would agree that it is safer to pursue a suspect in a car than on a motorcycle (unless of course you are the lead officer in the pursuit and you happen to be on a motorcycle…). That's generally true here as well where the pursuit gets serious (rather than simple traffic stops), but motorcycle police are also used quite a lot in general police work (at least where I live) as I was told by an officer I met that they are for example used to provide rapid reaction units for situations where for example a house is being raided and there's a need to block up access routes. Link to comment
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