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Anybody know a national retail source for Dual Lock Velcro...it's kind of like regular Velcro on steroids...its the stuff that is used to keep headlight covers and the like in place.

Thanks.

Dennis

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The stuff Radio Shack sells isn't dual lock. Go find the real 3M stuff at Target - it's stronger, and longer lasting.

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I gave up tying to find it locally and just ordered the 'coins' from Cee Baileys.

 

75 cents each... such a deal! eek.gif

+1

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I looked high and low for some locally since my headlight protector came off. I had it sitting by the front door of my house. My wife moved it while cleaning, then accidentally stepped on it and broke it. I ordered a replacement. When it arrived I realized that I didn't order any extra coins. The shipping from CB is outrageous, so I asked their CS department since I had an order in for luggage that hadn't shipped if they could toss them in there for me if I ordered some extras. Turns out they had just shipped the lugguage, so they sent a half dozen in the mail without shipping charges. But I have to find those 3M coins somewhere else. (I have found them, but I have to order them in rolls of 1000. frown.gif

 

Wayne

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... But I have to find those 3M coins somewhere else. (I have found them, but I have to order them in rolls of 1000. frown.gif

 

Wayne

 

My discovery was the same. How about a group buy? (I'm kidding!)

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Couchrocket

Check eBay. Search for "dual lock." There is a fellow there who buys in bulk, breaks it up and sells it at a good price / length, if you want to keep some around for projects. 3M brand, he even has some of the high strength / high temp stuff. I bought some and it was "as advertised."

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bakerzdosen
Check eBay. Search for "dual lock." There is a fellow there who buys in bulk, breaks it up and sells it at a good price / length, if you want to keep some around for projects. 3M brand, he even has some of the high strength / high temp stuff. I bought some and it was "as advertised."
+1. It was pretty cheap if I remember correctly - even shipping.
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I can't say for certian that the stuff is dual lock, but it sure holds very tight. It is available at Home Depot and Lowes, and is called industrial velcro.

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I can't say for certian that the stuff is dual lock, but it sure holds very tight. It is available at Home Depot and Lowes, and is called industrial velcro.

 

Be careful... most of the velcro fasteners I've seen, even the industrial type, state that they will degrade with constant exposure to sunight.

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GrumpyOldMan

Just bought Dual Lock strips at the local Radio Shack. It was genuine 3M Dual Lock packaged in a Radio Shack blister pack. It was easliy cut into coins as replacements for my headlight protector.

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Quite a number of the Ace Hardwares around here sell it. Dual Lock from 3M. They have it in clear and in black. Go to your local Ace! They have it right by the velcro.

 

I use this stuff to mount bike stuff all the time, much much sturdier than velcro thumbsup.gif. Just make sure you clean the surface with alcohol before you stick the tape down.

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3M Dual-Lock comes in three different strengths, 170, 250 and 400. These numbers refer to the number of mushroom pins per square inch. You can use these numbers to determine the strength of the bond between the two sides of Dual-Lock. As the strength goes up, the number of attach/detach cycles decreases.

 

Examples:

 

Attaching 170 to 170 yields a mild bond with plenty of attach/detach cycles.

 

Securing 170 to 250 creates a slightly stronger bond.

 

Using 250 on both sides is probably the best for strength in an application that might, occassionally, need to be detached.

 

Connecting 250 to 400 is for applications where high strength is needed and detachment will be rare, if ever.

 

Combining 400 with 400 is for permanent, high-strength use. One or two detachments may be possible, with great effort, but further detachments will severely damage the strength of the bond.

 

Combining 170 with 400 is not recommended.

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Jim VonBaden
3M Dual-Lock comes in three different strengths, 170, 250 and 400. These numbers refer to the number of mushroom pins per square inch. You can use these numbers to determine the strength of the bond between the two sides of Dual-Lock. As the strength goes up, the number of attach/detach cycles decreases.

 

Examples:

 

Attaching 170 to 170 yields a mild bond with plenty of attach/detach cycles.

 

Securing 170 to 250 creates a slightly stronger bond.

 

Using 250 on both sides is probably the best for strength in an application that might, occassionally, need to be detached.

 

Connecting 250 to 400 is for applications where high strangth is needed and detachment will be rare, if ever.

 

Combining 400 with 400 is for permanent, high-strength use. One or two detachments may be possible, with great effort, but further detachments will severely damage the strength of the bond.

 

Combining 170 with 400 is not recommended.

 

Excellent information! Thanks.

 

Now, where can we buy all three strengths?

 

Jim cool.gif

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I buy mine at a body shop supply house. 1" x 4.9 yards, Strange, as I look at this box it's 400/170 confused.gif

Oh well, I use it on the bike and all over my Tool Truck to hold stuff up to the carpeted side walls. dopeslap.gif I use 2 to 3 rolls a year with no problem. Next time I call my salesman I'll get a 3M catalog and see what's up. thumbsup.gif They offer lot's of things that are so neat to just have in the shop.

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Also important to note that the adhesive on the back of the dual lock is an epoxy. Full adhesion is only achieved after a few days and, once cured, it is very tough to remove without damaging the surface. Be especially cautious about sticking it on painted surfaces.

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...Be especially cautious about sticking it on painted surfaces.

Like the bottom of a V1. My detector underside was eventually bare magnesium after several mounting changes.

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3M Dual-Lock comes in three different strengths, 170, 250 and 400. These numbers refer to the number of mushroom pins per square inch. You can use these numbers to determine the strength of the bond between the two sides of Dual-Lock. As the strength goes up, the number of attach/detach cycles decreases.

 

Examples:

 

Attaching 170 to 170 yields a mild bond with plenty of attach/detach cycles.

 

Securing 170 to 250 creates a slightly stronger bond.

 

Using 250 on both sides is probably the best for strength in an application that might, occassionally, need to be detached.

 

Connecting 250 to 400 is for applications where high strength is needed and detachment will be rare, if ever.

 

Combining 400 with 400 is for permanent, high-strength use. One or two detachments may be possible, with great effort, but further detachments will severely damage the strength of the bond.

 

Combining 170 with 400 is not recommended.

 

After doing a bit of research, I must correct the above. 400 on 400 is not recommended as it is almost impossible to separate. However, 400 can be used with 170 or 250, with the higher the number the greater the connecting strength.

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Couchrocket

And the density of the "pins" is only part of the story. The adhesive used is the other part. The high temp / high strength stuff (3M calls this "VHB") is made to withstand high ambient temperatures w/o the adhesive getting gooey and falling off the mounted surface. So, if your application is subject to heat, as most of our MC applications are, make sure you get the VHB version of whatever dual lock "density" fits your needs.

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