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Since we have been beating up speed limits and anti-wheelie laws in a couple of other threads, I thought it could be fun to examine some of the more, well, stupid laws and regulations we are subjected to.

 

Let the mayhem begin. grin.gif

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REGULATION OF GASOLINE DISPENSING

Statute: ORS 480.349

Title: Use of gasoline dispensing device by motorcycle operator

(1) As used in this section, "motorcycle" has the meaning given that term in ORS 801.365.

(2) Notwithstanding ORS 480.330 and 480.340:

(a) Upon the request of an operator of a motorcycle, the owner, operator or employee of a filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail shall set the fuel dispensing device and hand the discharge nozzle to the operator of the motorcycle.

(b) An operator of a motorcycle who is handed a discharge nozzle under paragraph (a) of this subsection:

(A) May dispense Class 1 flammable liquids into the operator's motorcycle.

(B) Shall, after dispensing the liquids, return the discharge nozzle to the owner, operator or employee.

(3) The owner, operator or employee who is handed the discharge nozzle shall return the nozzle to the pump or take any other actions necessary to ensure safe completion of the fueling operation.

 

 

This dangerous section actually allows a motorcyclist to fill his own gas tank (after which he must return the discharge nozzle to the the owner, operator or employee who shall then return the nozzle to the pump or take any other actions necessary to ensure safe completion of the fueling operation.) Obviously safety is the prime concern here because look at the sheer mayhem that ensues in the other 48 states where self-fueling is legal!

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Paul Mihalka

Stupid laws: In Maryland, and may be in other states, a motorcycle rider with a learner's permit is permitted to ride only if accompanied by a fully motorcycle licensed rider, but in/on another vehicle. What good does he do? Help to lift up the bike if the learner dropped it?

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wrestleantares
Stupid laws: In Maryland, and may be in other states, a motorcycle rider with a learner's permit is permitted to ride only if accompanied by a fully motorcycle licensed rider, but in/on another vehicle. What good does he do? Help to lift up the bike if the learner dropped it?

 

Well, if he is in the lead he/she can set the pace by example. I know that I've been lead bike with some new riders. Took that into account when I led and kept a very attainable pace. When we stopped we talked about how comfortable they were, and what I saw in my rear view mirrors of their riding.

 

But I suspect that is an exception.

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Paul, along that line, here in Georgia, you can get a learners permit for riding a motorcycle if you pass the written exam. But, you can't get your permanent license unless you pass the practical exam.

 

Here in Georgia, you only need the ability to read to be able to learn how to ride a Hayabusa on public streets. Makes sense to me. dopeslap.gif

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333.01

Airport definitions

(12) "Tree" includes any plant of the vegetable kingdom.

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That's the best they could do?

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Well, I've heard "lane splitting" is actually legal in CA!
That's not the stupid law. The stupid laws are the ones banning motorcycle lane splitting in all the other states.
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bakerzdosen
Well, I've heard "lane splitting" is actually legal in CA!
That's not the stupid law. The stupid laws are the ones banning motorcycle lane splitting in all the other states.
a BIG +1 from me.
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In Maryland, and may be in other states, a motorcycle rider with a learner's permit is permitted to ride only if accompanied by a fully motorcycle licensed rider, but in/on another vehicle. What good does he do? Help to lift up the bike if the learner dropped it?

The fully licensed rider could yell instructions from the other vehicle..... grin.gif

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REGULATION OF GASOLINE DISPENSING

Statute: ORS 480.349

Title: Use of gasoline dispensing device by motorcycle operator

(1) As used in this section, "motorcycle" has the meaning given that term in ORS 801.365.

(2) Notwithstanding ORS 480.330 and 480.340:

(a) Upon the request of an operator of a motorcycle, the owner, operator or employee of a filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail shall set the fuel dispensing device and hand the discharge nozzle to the operator of the motorcycle.

(b) An operator of a motorcycle who is handed a discharge nozzle under paragraph (a) of this subsection:

(A) May dispense Class 1 flammable liquids into the operator's motorcycle.

(B) Shall, after dispensing the liquids, return the discharge nozzle to the owner, operator or employee.

(3) The owner, operator or employee who is handed the discharge nozzle shall return the nozzle to the pump or take any other actions necessary to ensure safe completion of the fueling operation.

 

 

This dangerous section actually allows a motorcyclist to fill his own gas tank (after which he must return the discharge nozzle to the the owner, operator or employee who shall then return the nozzle to the pump or take any other actions necessary to ensure safe completion of the fueling operation.) Obviously safety is the prime concern here because look at the sheer mayhem that ensues in the other 48 states where self-fueling is legal!

 

Rarely do the attendants follow the letter of the law. Most of the time they handle your credit card, hand you the nozzle and that's the last time you see them. At Costco, they let you handle your card anyway so lots of times I've done the whole operation myself when the attendant didn't get to me it time. I've never had one of them say I broke the law or given me even a hint of displeasure. A few times (only in Eastern Oregon for some reason) I've had the attendants just let me do the whole operation.

 

Having spent 95% of my life in Oregon, I guess I'm spoiled. I actually like to be waited on when I'm in the cage. Not that I really mind pumping my own. If Oregon ever changed the law it wouldn't matter to me much one way or the other. I'm relatively young and fit and have no problem getting out of the car. I'm wondering, though, how other states handle people who really need help. When I pull into a station in other states I don't see attended pumps or even any employees available to help. Maybe I've just never noticed.

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wrestleantares
I'm wondering, though, how other states handle people who really need help. When I pull into a station in other states I don't see attended pumps or even any employees available to help. Maybe I've just never noticed.

 

What, you've never seen the button right beside the pump - you know the one where you have to be able to get out of your car and go and press it - that says press this button if you need assistance.

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When I pull into a station in other states I don't see attended pumps or even any employees available to help.
In Texas there is usually a 'need assistance' pump island with a pushbutton or intercom from which you can get assistance from an attendant if necessary. I've never had occasion to test this so I don't know if the process usually works or usually doesn't, but that's how it's supposed to go at least.
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I'm wondering, though, how other states handle people who really need help. When I pull into a station in other states I don't see attended pumps or even any employees available to help. Maybe I've just never noticed.
My son works at a self-service station in town. If someone needs help they can just sit there and he'll go out or beep their horn. (They do have the button by the pump but that does require the ability to get out of the car.) He's also helped more than his share of people who swear the pump is broken even though it was just working for the last guy. And who after being shown how to make it work grumble but never say thank you.

 

I've seen a bunch of stations in the Northeast that have a little sign that says to beep the horn if you need help.

 

Jim

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NoLongeraK1200RSRider
Well, I've heard "lane splitting" is actually legal in CA!
LEGAL.. yes.. but NOT required! clap.gif Thank goodness.. I split lanes very seldom.. and only if traffic is stopped or nearly so. tongue.gif YMMV
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Bill Neander

A couple of years ago Oregon modified their state law to specifically allow motorcycles to fill their own tanks.

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Paul Mihalka
A couple of years ago Oregon modified their state law to specifically allow motorcycles to fill their own tanks.
I would love to have a motorcycle that fills it's own tank - and preferably pays for the gas too grin.gif
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In Kentucky, "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she be escorted by at least two officers or unless she be armed with a club"

 

An amendment to the above legislation: "The provisions of this statute shall not apply to females weighing less than 90 pounds nor exceeding 200 pounds, nor shall it apply to female horses."

 

In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.
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motoguy128

It's been a long time since I've even seen a full service pump at a gas station. I've never used one.

 

They actually need a law that the operator of the vehicle MUST pump their own gas. If you're too stupid to pump your own gas safely... should you be operating a 2500-5000lb missle on public roads?

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It's been a long time since I've even seen a full service pump at a gas station. I've never used one.

 

They actually need a law that the operator of the vehicle MUST pump their own gas.

 

I'm in the 'other' state where it is unlawful to pump your own gas. I go to the same 2 gas stations all the time so they know me. They know that I'll take care of my own vehicles.

 

From what I understand, the reason they have not made it self serve is because the insurance cost would be too high.

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A couple of years ago Oregon modified their state law to specifically allow motorcycles to fill their own tanks.
I would love to have a motorcycle that fills it's own tank - and preferably pays for the gas too grin.gif

 

Nice catch, Paul. grin.gif

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Here are a couple from Georgia:

 

-Members of the state assembly cannot be ticketed for speeding while the state assembly is in session.

 

-Donkeys may not be kept in bathtubs.

 

-No one may carry an ice cream cone in their back pocket if it is Sunday.

 

-In Roswell Georgia, erotic dancing is prohibited on Sundays. Don't tell Marty. tongue.gif

 

Disclaimer: I found these at the The Dumb Network and can't necessarily vouch for their authenticity. So, YLMV.

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A couple of years ago Oregon modified their state law to specifically allow motorcycles to fill their own tanks.

Yeah, I know. That was the gist of smiller's post and my response.

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BeemerBerg

I write the advertising for a large retail operation, which has stores in almost every state.

 

Item 1--

Awhile back I was told that I could no longer put Wheelchairs or Walkers in the advertising for our Florida stores. ??What--don't they have a bunch of OLD PEOPLE there that can't get around without these things??

 

Turns out that in Florida, only licensed pharmacys can sell Wheelchairs & Walkers--even tho ours are a fraction of the price of theirs, and just as good.

 

Item 2--

Also found out that I can't advertise Calculators in Alabama. Seems that there's still an old law on the books that requires a retailer to buy a special permit ($$$) to sell "calculating devices". Goes back to some confiscatory tax regulations from the '30's. Might explain a few things about that region?? lurker.gif Turns out that Alabama has quite a few of these strange laws still on the books--and enforced. tongue.gif

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Steve_Witmer
From what I understand, the reason they have not made it self serve is because the insurance cost would be too high.

 

It's not the insurance cost -- it's state law. The real reason New Jersey mandates full service gasoline pumps is a scheme to lower unemployment. Jobs guaranteed available for persons not qualified to do anything more complicated than pump gasoline.

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Dave McReynolds

In recent years, there has been a box on the federal tax return which can be checked if the taxpayer wants to allow the return preparer to discuss the return with the IRS. Theoretically, this should be a good thing, since the preparer could possibly solve minor problems that arise with the IRS, such as mis-matched payments, etc., without the need of a power of attorney. So almost all my clients check the box.

 

The IRS has never agreed to discuss a return with me when the box has been checked, without my first getting a power of attorney from the client. When asked what the purpose of the box is, they have no answer.

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Jobs guaranteed available for persons not qualified to do anything more complicated than pump gasoline.
That's a big generalization. In Oregon I see a lot of college kids, high school kids, gas station owners and their family members pumping the gas. Yes, lots of unskilled labor but there's nothing wrong with providing them jobs too. It's better than having them standing on the street corner begging.
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Steve_Witmer

I didn't say there weren't other people taking those jobs -- but employment of the otherwise unemployable was one of the reasons the New Jersey legislature prohibited self serve. Of course, they also at one point had unionized gas station workers on the Garden State Parkway ... don't know whether that's still true.

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In Arizona:

Any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is considered a felony. This goes back in the days of the Wild West.

 

There is a possible 25 years in prison for cutting down a cactus.

 

When being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person posseses. blush.gif

 

Hunting camels is prohibited.

 

Donkeys cannot sleep in bathtubs.

 

It is unlawful to refuse a person a glass of water.

 

Glendale

Cars may not be driven in reverse (I guess motorcycles can). tongue.gif

 

Globe

Cards may not be played in the street with a Native American.

 

Hayden

If you bother the cottontails or bullfrogs, you will be fined.

 

Maricopa County

No more than six girls may live in any house. smirk.gif

 

Mesa

It is illegal to smoke cigarettes within 15 feet of a public place unless you have a Class 12 liqueur license.

 

Mohave County

A decree declares that anyone caught stealing soap must wash himself with it until it is all used up.

 

Nogales

An ordinance prohibits the wearing of suspenders.

 

Prescott

No one is permitted to ride their horse up the stairs of the county court house.

 

Tucson

Women may not wear pants. thumbsup.gif

 

Tombstone

It is illegal for men and women over the age of 18 to have less than one missing tooth visible when smiling.

 

(dumblaws.com)

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j4bberw0ck

(In England)

 

Legal to shoot Scotsmen in York, with a bow and arrow, except on Sundays. Legal to shoot, with bow and arrow, or decapitate Welshmen (and women too) who are caught within the City Walls of Chester after midnight. grin.gif

 

I don't recommend either; the Police are humourless people who remind miscreants that under UK Law, new Statutes replace old without the need for specific repeal.

 

Bummer.

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