Francois_Dumas Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I agree, I don't even like to wear shades, becasue I can't get them off when needed (like in tunnels !?). I like the new helmets that have a separate sun visor built in..... unfortunately I can't buy one yet... I need to drop my current one first I think ... to have an excuse.... Link to comment
Tasker Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 unfortunately I can't buy one yet... I need to drop my current one first I think ... to have an excuse.... I'd be kicking that thing down the driveway as soon as no one is looking! Link to comment
Francois_Dumas Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 unfortunately I can't buy one yet... I need to drop my current one first I think ... to have an excuse.... I'd be kicking that thing down the driveway as soon as no one is looking! Now you got me thinking evil thoughts, Tasker ! Link to comment
AviP Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Or more accurately, 'hypothetical/potential situation' aware of what might be in our future in front of us. The incident below is not motorcycle related but it is not a thread hijack either. It kinda goes to explain that there is danger lurking in the silliest of places and Ken makes a good point. Me, my wife, brother-in-law and son were taking a stroll across the GW Bridge to NYC. My 4-year son was riding his 2-wheel Razor scooter. After he got tired, my brother-in-law rode it just for kicks. About 1 minute later, I saw him being vaulted over it's handlebars and almost over the bridge. He was at about 5mph. When I asked him what happened, he was too winded but said that the scooter just vaulted him over and he didn't understand what happened. I looked at the path and saw a small pothole about 4 inches wide and 4 inches deep in the concrete sidewalk. It was fully covered in soft sand. The small wheel of the scooter just lodged into the pothole, causing him to go over the handlebars. I repeated the same action again and found a similar result except that I was ready for it. So my point is that there are a lot of things that can bite us by surprise if we don't expect it. If this incident happened a foot to the left he could have been thrown over the guardrail and down 200ft into the water to almost certain death! And doing what? Riding a kid's scooter over the GW Bridge. With motorcycling, we have the luxury of our alert system being honed by repetitive hazards such as gravel, ice, cages, etc. But accidents still happen because a lot of factors come into play at the same time. Breaking down this accident into it's factors, I see a dark visor, shadows, slow speed, gravel and a bad line. Wearing a dark visor has the same risks as riding after dusk to before dawn. The shadows, in this case, worsened the deception. The slow speed didn't permit any reaction time. The gravel is the necessary ingredient here. And the bad line was just that. If any one of these factors was not present, the outcome could have been different. Whip, what do you think? Link to comment
Whip Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 What do I think???? I think it hurts If you mean the factors that led to my demise. I would say not riding in the wheel ruts/bad line was the biggest reason. The other things sound good but they're only excuses for not be a good rider. I still have a lot to learn and I hope this won't happen again. I'll prolly ride without the dark mask for awhile and see if it helps. I will also go back to the place it happen and see if I missed anything.(besides it's a good reason to visit Philby) I don't remember seeing any gravel anywhere before this happen nor did I notice the "new road surface". I do know that right before it happen the bike was sticking to the road like it was on rails. Happy New Year. Whip Link to comment
Paul_Burkett Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I'm sorry to hear this, hope you heal quickly. Link to comment
Officer_Impersonator Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 This is the place......I think you can see the front wheel wash out area and then some scrapes on the ground where the frame slider did it's thing.....after looking at the pix...maybe I was going slower than I thought. You can also see how the shade masked the gravel. Pictures by Limecreek I've never got to ride in a meat wagon before.....hope it's the last time. Pictures by Limecreek. I want to thank everyone for the love. Feel free to make comments about the seen of the accident. I hope I can learn something from it. Whip Looks as if the pavement surface is some of that atrocious gravel and tar crap rural jurisdictions like to use instead of paying more money for proper asphalt. I know the county I used to ride in when in college would lay down a layer of oil, then spread a layer of gravel on top, hoping some of the gravel will stick to the oil. Some does, just so it can get pried off and lurk in the shadows, waiting for a two-wheeled vehicle to come along. Best case scenario, the stuff gets thrown up by the car in front of you. Worst case scenario - see above. At least you had pretty girls to load you into the meat wagon I wish you a speedy recovery and safe riding in the new year! Link to comment
tobyzusa Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I think I was jinxed by reading this post. It was the last thing I did Wednesday evening before hopping on the bike for a short, "get some fresh air" jaunt. I live in a semi-rural area and wasn't going far. I did have on all the gear. Came to a dead-end on a narrow road that was sloped downward. So I had to do a three point turn - turn left, stop, turn right, reverse, then turn left to go back the way I came. Well, I stalled the bike, most likely because I didn't appropriately account for the up-slope, while the wheel was significantly turned left due to the skinny road. Down I go, not at 20 mph like Whip, but probably 2 mph. The result however, was the same. Broke the same f-bone as Whip, the fibula. I felt it give-way as my body wanted to leave the bike, but the RT held on tightly to my ankle. Ever try to pick-up an RT with a busted leg? It did come up, but not via the standard technique. By the way, a few scratches to the side case is the extent of the damage to the bike. I don’t think I’ll read any more posts of this nature! Prognosis is for a 6 week recovery. Whip, how ‘bout yours? Link to comment
Whip Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 I think I was jinxed by reading this post. It was the last thing I did Wednesday evening before hopping on the bike for a short, "get some fresh air" jaunt. I live in a semi-rural area and wasn't going far. I did have on all the gear. Came to a dead-end on a narrow road that was sloped downward. So I had to do a three point turn - turn left, stop, turn right, reverse, then turn left to go back the way I came. Well, I stalled the bike, most likely because I didn't appropriately account for the up-slope, while the wheel was significantly turned left due to the skinny road. Down I go, not at 20 mph like Whip, but probably 2 mph. The result however, was the same. Broke the same f-bone as Whip, the fibula. I felt it give-way as my body wanted to leave the bike, but the RT held on tightly to my ankle. Ever try to pick-up an RT with a busted leg? It did come up, but not via the standard technique. By the way, a few scratches to the side case is the extent of the damage to the bike. I don’t think I’ll read any more posts of this nature! Prognosis is for a 6 week recovery. Whip, how ‘bout yours? ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Brad That really sucks...very sorry to hear that. I hear one Vicodin at bedtime does wonders. We can now answer Andy's(Boffin) question would the jugs have saved me........NO. I don't have a time table yet. The emergency Docs just told me to see an ortho. in about a week, bring my x-rays and they will be able to tell how it looks from there. 6 weeks is prolly close. I have know idea. Whip BTW...If you get down watch some high lights of your local highschool football team and their State Championship.... sorry the coach is leaving. Link to comment
tobyzusa Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 BTW...If you get down watch some high lights of your local highschool football team and their State Championship.... sorry the coach is leaving. Yes! I was down in your town last weekend for the game! My son is a senior and daughter graduated last year. We enjoyed the game and San Antonio, in spite of the weather! We know both Todd and Riley personally. They will both do well. Just a new and different chapter of their lives! Link to comment
Boffin Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I think I was jinxed by reading this post. It was the last thing I did Wednesday evening before hopping on the bike for a short, "get some fresh air" jaunt. I live in a semi-rural area and wasn't going far. I did have on all the gear. Came to a dead-end on a narrow road that was sloped downward. So I had to do a three point turn - turn left, stop, turn right, reverse, then turn left to go back the way I came. Well, I stalled the bike, most likely because I didn't appropriately account for the up-slope, while the wheel was significantly turned left due to the skinny road. Down I go, not at 20 mph like Whip, but probably 2 mph. The result however, was the same. Broke the same f-bone as Whip, the fibula. I felt it give-way as my body wanted to leave the bike, but the RT held on tightly to my ankle. Ever try to pick-up an RT with a busted leg? It did come up, but not via the standard technique. By the way, a few scratches to the side case is the extent of the damage to the bike. I don’t think I’ll read any more posts of this nature! Prognosis is for a 6 week recovery. Whip, how ‘bout yours? Yikes. I would have left the bike down and waited for the cavalry to arrive. Whip said: We can now answer Andy's(Boffin) question would the jugs have saved me........NO. I would have preferred to have left this question hanging.... Andy Link to comment
KMG_365 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yikes!! It's a plague of drops!! Wishing all of you fast healing and lots of fun pain meds!! Link to comment
hANNAbONE Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 This is precisely why I have stopped using dark face shields. The only time I will use a shaded face shield now is if I know I will be putting in several hundred miles on the slab and then I am only using the medium-dark shield. tASKER - yOU bE lIKE mE - I switched out my dark for no-tint in the heat of noon-ish ride through Delores Canyon back in June Pre-Gunny V with sIRrODNEY...coming in and out of the shadows even just after noon was a bear to see anything - and being that far out in the boonies - I wasn't choosing to slide - not that any of us do.! I'm also using dark sunglasses for just this reason too - I'll flip up my visor in those times when I don't need the "full dark protection"...but otherwise I'm on the light / no-tint shield. - good call.! Link to comment
pdegnan Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Whip, sorry to see this, hope you are doing ok! My best to Louise and you for a quick recovery. Link to comment
ncsonderman Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 man...glad you're ok and in such good spirits. heal fast. thought maybe we were now a porn site when i saw the title of your thread. sick mind anywhoo. +1! It's odd that some crashes seem to happen so slowly that you can remember rediculously small details and others in the blink of an eye. I hope the physical therapy on your ankle goes O.K. Link to comment
Chrish1234 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Sorry to hear of all the mishaps. Heal well everyone. Chris Link to comment
PhillyFlash Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Sorry to hear about you going down, Whip. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Link to comment
CT_Rider Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You can also see how the shade masked the gravel. That looks like a recently chip-sealed road. If you don't know, chip-sealing is a very cheap way of "repaving". They spew a g'zillion barrels of hot oil on the road that really needs to be repaved and then slather it with gravel. Whatever sticks as the oil cools, stays... sort of. The process is supposedly completed by traffic mashing the gravel in and kicking the remainder to the side of the road for eventual cleanup. I almost lost it yesterday here in Connecticut going in to a corner on a recently chip-sealed road. I was going about 5 mph and I knew it was there! Get well. Link to comment
MikeB Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Here in California, chip seals are not to replace repaving, rather it is a method of maintaining the asphalt and extending its life. I have seen them put chip seals on two year old asphalt. However, I hate it as much as anyone. It is dangerous for motorcycles, and causes chipped windshields on our cars. Link to comment
Bud Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Dang, Time to get out the Bud and Three Muskateers. Heal quickly. Link to comment
TN_R_Girl Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think I was jinxed by reading this post. It was the last thing I did Wednesday evening before hopping on the bike for a short, "get some fresh air" jaunt. I live in a semi-rural area and wasn't going far. I did have on all the gear. Came to a dead-end on a narrow road that was sloped downward. So I had to do a three point turn - turn left, stop, turn right, reverse, then turn left to go back the way I came. Well, I stalled the bike, most likely because I didn't appropriately account for the up-slope, while the wheel was significantly turned left due to the skinny road. Down I go, not at 20 mph like Whip, but probably 2 mph. The result however, was the same. Broke the same f-bone as Whip, the fibula. I felt it give-way as my body wanted to leave the bike, but the RT held on tightly to my ankle. Ever try to pick-up an RT with a busted leg? It did come up, but not via the standard technique. By the way, a few scratches to the side case is the extent of the damage to the bike. I don’t think I’ll read any more posts of this nature! Prognosis is for a 6 week recovery. Whip, how ‘bout yours? Toby ~ Sorry to hear it. Same advice I offered above ... don't underestimate the value of self-medication Get well soon. Link to comment
BeniciaRT_GT Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 That looks kind of familiar! Mine is just at the other end of the "legbone" (knee end of tibia) Although I'm two less of those now, just ask Whip! I showed them to him at dinner one night!!! I talked to Whip yesterday or so, and he is getting "screwed" to help his heal faster. Link to comment
Kitsap Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 What did the EMT's look like??? I see I'm not the only one out there Whip, glad to here all will be well. Link to comment
Firefight911 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 That looks kind of familiar! Mine is just at the other end of the "legbone" (knee end of tibia) Although I'm two less of those now, just ask Whip! I showed them to him at dinner one night!!! I talked to Whip yesterday or so, and he is getting "screwed" to help his heal faster. See Whip!!!! Told you he would do it!!! Took him longer than I expected, but then again, THAT we expect! Now if Richard could just find some balls . . . Link to comment
BeniciaRT_GT Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I am, if anything, predictable? Apparently Link to comment
Huzband Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Now if Richard could just find some balls . . . Maybe these... Link to comment
Dances_With_Wiener_Dogs Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I don't know where I've been Whip, but this is not good at all. Get well buddy! Link to comment
Firefight911 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Now if Richard could just find some balls . . . Maybe these... Hee, Hee!!!!!! Link to comment
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