IT_Mike Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Just a friendly post... I recall others having a problem with loose mounting system case. At ~13.5K mls., mine have loosened. Morton's BMW determined it's the locking latch mechanism on the inside of the inner half of the bag. (When you lock the bag to the bike, a latch is sliding up behind the bodywork). BMWNA is replacing the inner half of the bag, so everyone else should be able to get this fixed. Mike Link to comment
CTRBLNCD1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 3yr/36k - sounds like a manufacturer defect to me Nothings perfect! Link to comment
IT_Mike Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 True. But I've always found it easier to convince a rep. when I had another case to point them at... These bikes are a new design, with relatively few miles on them. Everyone's still feeling out the weaknesses, and trying to determine what's a failure vs. wear & tear. (Did the latch fail? or just wear out?) Therefore I thought it best to post, if only for reference purposes. Mike Link to comment
CTRBLNCD1 Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 True. But I've always found it easier to convince a rep. when I had another case to point them at... These bikes are a new design, with relatively few miles on them. Everyone's still feeling out the weaknesses, and trying to determine what's a failure vs. wear & tear. (Did the latch fail? or just wear out?) Therefore I thought it best to post, if only for reference purposes. Mike With ya all the way Mike! Just expressing my love of the warranty! And it is good to put this up, thank you! Link to comment
JohnBeaven Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 How loose is considered too loose. After 10000km my case have between 5-10mm of play. Is this normal? Link to comment
IT_Mike Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 Mine shift ~3cm, nearly lifting off the rear post. Way too loose. Prior to this, they'd never move at all. Mike Link to comment
ButtUgly Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 My left hand travel case is extremely difficult to 'latch in' when I'm installing it. I almost have to jump onto the handle to get it to close down.... I'm having the dealer look into it later this week. Link to comment
PaulW42 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I had this problem too - well, similar; it was nearly impossible to open. The dealer was going to replace the latch mechanisms but, when they opened it up, it turned out to be dirt. They are obviously not very well protected from the elements. They cleaned them out and all has been well since (about 4 months) but I am a bit concerned about next Winter. Paul Link to comment
chazholiday Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I dissassembled the inner case while installing some of those bungie posts. I was not really impressed with the locking mechanism. I also must not have done such a great job putting everything back together, as I have experienced a few 80mph case openings. So a few tips if you plan on taking these things apart. 1. The main issue is that there is nothing holding any of the locking mechanism parts in place once you remover the inner case plastic housing. 2. The coil that retracts the lid strap will explode into a tangle of spring if you are not careful. It takes some patience to wind it back... 3. The lock cylinder seems to be extremely sensitive to how it is oriented when you screw everything back together, resulting in cases not wanting to open, which makes it kinda difficult to take them appart again Link to comment
Rusty1945 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I dissassembled the inner case while installing some of those bungie posts. I was not really impressed with the locking mechanism. I also must not have done such a great job putting everything back together, as I have experienced a few 80mph case openings. So a few tips if you plan on taking these things apart. 1. The main issue is that there is nothing holding any of the locking mechanism parts in place once you remover the inner case plastic housing. 2. The coil that retracts the lid strap will explode into a tangle of spring if you are not careful. It takes some patience to wind it back... 3. The lock cylinder seems to be extremely sensitive to how it is oriented when you screw everything back together, resulting in cases not wanting to open, which makes it kinda difficult to take them appart again Hmm. My left case has always been hard to open - you have to press the lock cylinder and simultaneously press down on the latch lever or it won't pop up. I'm going to live with it because I'm afraid the "cure" might make it worse Link to comment
MichaelC Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I've found that in many instances, the cases are hard to open when full because the contents are pressing outwards and binding the latch mechanism. I've found that leaning with my legs to squeeze the case a little further shut while pressing to unlock works wonders...the lock mechanism operates very freely. Link to comment
Mdcruiser Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I dissassembled the inner case while installing some of those bungie posts. I was not really impressed with the locking mechanism. I also must not have done such a great job putting everything back together, as I have experienced a few 80mph case openings. So a few tips if you plan on taking these things apart. 1. The main issue is that there is nothing holding any of the locking mechanism parts in place once you remover the inner case plastic housing. 2. The coil that retracts the lid strap will explode into a tangle of spring if you are not careful. It takes some patience to wind it back... 3. The lock cylinder seems to be extremely sensitive to how it is oriented when you screw everything back together, resulting in cases not wanting to open, which makes it kinda difficult to take them appart again Hmm. My left case has always been hard to open - you have to press the lock cylinder and simultaneously press down on the latch lever or it won't pop up. I'm going to live with it because I'm afraid the "cure" might make it worse Me too, Rusty. Exactly the same problem, left case only. Pushing down on the key button will not open the case, as it should when the key is in the "open" position. The first time this happened I almost panicked (wallet was inside...) but learned to play with it and insert the key, turning it to lock and then back to open and pushing at the same time. What's up? Link to comment
marcopolo Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Try pressing down on the latch lever (to relieve pressure) before pressing the open button. Works every time for me. Link to comment
sb955i Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Same here, left case only. And it's harder to align onto the peg bracket as well.. weird. Link to comment
PaulW42 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Me too, Rusty. Exactly the same problem, left case only. Pushing down on the key button will not open the case, as it should when the key is in the "open" position. The first time this happened I almost panicked (wallet was inside...) but learned to play with it and insert the key, turning it to lock and then back to open and pushing at the same time. What's up? This is the path mine followed. 1. Started to get hard to open by pushing the button down but playing with the key would help 2. Then used to push on latch and button but that got harder. 3. Then pushed leg against pannier lid (especially when well packed). This gradually got harder over time. 4. Eventually became impossible to open using any/all of the above. Started with LH pannier and then RH pannier. Dealer was going to change over mechanisms but ended just giving the internals a good clean and oil and everything has been fine since. Next time I'm in the dealer, I'll try and get a bit more detail. Link to comment
IT_Mike Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 UPDATE: Apparently, BMW has corrected the problem that doesn't exist... The new inside halves of system cases come with 'wear compensators' that attach to the 'latch' on the back of the clamshell. Link to comment
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