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Product:  "Worldmotop" Engine Guard Crash Bar Protector fits for BMW R1200RT R1200 RT 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018(black, Front and Rear) - from Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0915MCBXP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Price:  $320.00, S&H $30, plus sales tax  (now $315 + $20).

(The Shiftcam 2019+ version was $299.00, free (Amazon Prime) delivery, last I looked.)

 

Overview:  This product is installed on my BMW 2018 R1200RT.  These bars are marketed by Amazon retailer “Worldmotop”, and are made by a Chinese company named “BAIONE”.  They are knock-offs of Wunderlich’s product.  In fact, they sent a scraped photocopy of Wunderlich’s installation instructions, when asked (product comes with no instructions).  Generally, they fit well (with one exception), appear well constructed, strong enough for the purpose, and MAY not require removal for service involving the engine head covers.  (Wunderlich has a PDF indicating technicians should loosen, not remove bars for service, but they may have since redesigned their product.  THIS product looks like it just clears the lower engine head covers.  Overall, I’m happy with the product.

 

Grade:  4 stars, of 5

 

PRO:  Price, suitability to purpose, fitment, finish, and appearance.
NEG:  Probably painted, not powder coated (based upon chipped paint on one of the rear brackets).  Right, rear, luggage protecting bracket did not fit without modification.  Rear bars will need to be removed when riding 2-up, because my (5’0”) wife’s legs will not fit over them.  In my judgement, based upon the position of the bars, it would require a person at least 5’ 6’ tall, and/or with long legs, for their knee to be far enough forward to bend over, and clear the luggage protecting crash bars.  The right front engine head protector bar binds on the lower engine fairing.   Finish between front and rear crash bars differs (i.e. matte, versus semi-gloss). 

 

Installation instructions:  Wunderlich has several edition of video’s out, one which recommends significant disassembly of the rear passenger seat, Tupperware, and luggage rack for the luggage protecting bar installation, which is wholly unnecessary.  Written instructions are available at the Wunderlich site, which can be useful as a second reference.  Your first is these videos:

   Engine bars:  :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GOrJ8vTJHI

   Luggage bars:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KsCt4iRnXLg

 

Installation time:  Wunderlich says less than an hour.  However, the Tupperware removal and reinstallation alone takes me that long (unless you want to break off tabs and do other “hurry up” damage.)  It took me over a week, with delays for store visits and other online purchases (e.g. new torque wrench, when I “thought” I broke a bolt where it attaches in the engine).  I was in no hurry, and it turns out, that was a good thing.  Actual wrenching time was probably about 5 hours, but the problem I had with the right rear bracket burned over an hour by itself (with about 5 reinstalls required).

 

Problems and issues:

 

Hardware:  Vendor provides excess screws for front bars, and was short on M8 washers for the rear.  The screws obviously were not an exact fit corresponding to Wunderlich’s hardware, but they were adequate. OEM TORX bolts are flanged, and the vendor substitutes Allen bolts with washers; they work.  Wunderlich prescribes Locktite 243 on all bolts, even though they supply nyloc nuts, which don’t need a threadlocker.  Good luck finding Locktite 243 at a retail store, which is “stronger and petroleum resistant” than 242, but 242 will probably be in your toolbox, and works fine IMHO.

 

Right Rear Crash Bar:  Bracket just didn’t fit, as pictures document.   I never replaced my fine, old, 80 pound vise because I have no room for a formal work bench in my new, small garage.  So, I had to use another fine engineering tool which I happen to have on hand, along with the sturdy, if unremarkable garage floor.  (Yes, I tapped the bracket with electrical tape to protect it, and later upgraded to duck tape – what would a motorcycle project be, without using duck tape somewhere.)

 

Right Front Crash Bar:  Lower engine fairing panel contacts and binds on the lower engine protector bar.  It’s a definite fracture risk, almost certain vibration/noise problem, and at best, will wear into the plastic, unless the bar is padded.  I used an emulsifying rubber electrical tape for the purpose.  We’ll see how it holds up.

 

Conclusion:  I’d advise anyone looking for bars, to first consider the HEED bars from Europe.  I’ve been told that people have been paying about $440 shipped from Europe.  From the pictures, I like the design and construction better, particularly for the rear bars which appear to have a “niche” in them, for the legs of smaller riders to slide through.

https://heedshop.eu/en_US/p/Front-and-rear-crash-bars-for-BMW-R-1200-RT-LC-2014-2018-black-/298

 

Pictures:

 

Upon delivery:

 

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Contents:

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Contents unwrapped:

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Example of welds:

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Difference in finish, front versus rear bars:

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Before mounting pictures:

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After installation, including shot of fitment around engine header:

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Front Bars Install:

 

Right side engine bars install (two of three screws, plus the fairing bracket to remove):

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Views of (rider's) right side engine bars.  There are three bolts connecting the bars.  Showing below, bottom-rear (where OEM bolt is replaced), bottom-forward (connects to engine)

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Forward, top bolt (two pix, difficult to show, bar bracket wraps around behind RT frame, bolt goes through hole in frame to reach the bar bracket behind, and a washer and nyloc nut is attached):

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One shot of the bottom bolts on the (rider's) left side of the bike:

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This (rider's) left side picture of the top, front bolt, shows how the bracket wraps around the RT frame:

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Rear Luggage Protecting Crash Bar Install:

 

Protecting your tupperware!

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Note:  Wunderlich recommends loosening (even removing!) these parts.  It helps, but not essential if you protect the plastic with tape.  That lower screw (above picture) comes out at an angle, which enables you to reach it with a socket wrench without removing the tupperware.

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Installation of (rider's) left side luggage crash bar.

As finished:

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A bracket is installed (not shown) behind the foot peg bracket, so that there's a two-hole mount for the upper part of the bracket)

This is the upper mount:

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The base of the bracket is mounted below the foot peg.  The OEM Pin is removed, the replacement bolt extends quite far below the pet, through the peg, and through a provided spacer below the peg mount frame.)

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(Rider's) Right side luggage crash bar gave me fits.

The black crash bar bracket connects along the RT frame at two points, behind the silver OEM peg bracket.  I don't have a picture, but the front connecting point was misshaped, so that it would not lay flat against the frame.   That cause the bottom of the OEM bracket, which supports the exhaust, to arch away from the exhaust.   When I adjusted the black bracket (trying to solve the problem), and applied torque, the bracket dug into the frame.  Not a good solution. 

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Since I don't have a permanent work bench or vise in the new house, I had to look for another fine engineering tool to make the adjustment.  It took five attempts overall, but I finally got it close enough to bolt the bracket on.  (The right side bar bolts to the bracket, and below the peg, as per the left side.)

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No job is complete until the paper work is complete (actually, until the parts and tools are put away 😁), so I'll do that now.

 

I'm labeling the parts that came off the bike, and putting them in plastic bags, so I don't have future moments "Dang, that bolt looks important AND expensive.  Wonder what it was for ...".

 

So, passing on my research to complete the above:

 

Front crash bars, right side of bike, OEM frame bolt that's replaced on the rear of the bar assembly.
FILLISTER-HEAD SCREW - M10X60-8.8          07 11 9 907 389
Note:  The OEM is a 60MM screw, whereas the replacement allen bolt is 55MM.  
Hmmm, wonder why.

 

Rear frame bolts and peg pins:
FILLISTER-HEAD SCREW - M8X25-8.8-ZNNIV         07 12 9 907 382
Again, the replacements are M8x30 Allen.

Pax peg pin
PIN - L=42MM                      46 71 7 680 530
SECURING CLIP - 6,0                  07 14 6 892 696
Replaced by M8x65 Allen Screw, an 18x9x5mm spacer, and M8 Nyloc nut and washer.

 

 

Lol, I expected a little more interest in this product.  I shouldn't have bothered with all the details.

I even posted a little review on Amazon, but Amazon rejected it, so ...lol, screw it.

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Thankyou very much for the thorough review. I have owned my new to me 2010 BMW R1200RT  less than forty eight hours. Yesterday I was perusing the internet for a suitable engine protective setup and saw the very same items you reviewed. I habitually read the reviews on products I am considering purchasing. I noticed there was only one review and it was by BAIONE. I saw it as a red flag, for myself anyway, and moved on to the next candidate. I think I will go with the HEEDs bars. I appreciate your advice.

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On 3/11/2022 at 2:10 PM, EricOwen said:

Thankyou very much for the thorough review. I have owned my new to me 2010 BMW R1200RT  less than forty eight hours. Yesterday I was perusing the internet for a suitable engine protective setup and saw the very same items you reviewed. I habitually read the reviews on products I am considering purchasing. I noticed there was only one review and it was by BAIONE. I saw it as a red flag, for myself anyway, and moved on to the next candidate. I think I will go with the HEEDs bars. I appreciate your advice.

Amazon 3x rejected my 4-star review of this product, one with pictures, and references.   The problem is the lack of integrity of the Amazon review system.   My believe is "you pay Amazon by using their prime or other services, or you get no positive reviews".

It's an absolutely dishonest, manipulated system.

 

My review was legit.  You'll need a different model bars for a 2010.

 

Try these links:

https://www.amazon.com/Worldmotop-Highway-Protector-R1200RT-2004-2013/dp/B0915DMCLT/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=2010+bmw&m=A74FQXZHTTRIE&qid=1647128521&s=merchant-items&sr=1-9

https://www.amazon.com/Worldmotop-Highway-Compatible-R1200GS-2004-2012/dp/B08VW94PQ5/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=2010+bmw&m=A74FQXZHTTRIE&qid=1647128521&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1

If you can't find exactly what you want, or have questions, contact the vendor directly.  They were very responsive.

 

If you get the HEEDs, be sure to take pictures of the shipment, opening, parts, and install, for the rest of us.   This may not be my "last" RT (or a GS might be in my future).   Or, I may mount the rear HEED bars on my bike, if as it appears in the pictures, it's easier for a smaller pillion rider to ride with them mounted.   

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Update:  Second ride with the crash bars, and this happened.  I WAS pushing some slow maneuvering drills pretty hard, but this happened at 2-3 MPH at most, possibly stationary (cause I think I spiked my rear tire by popping the clutch, causing the tipover).

 

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It should look like this side:

 

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It appears the rear plate bracket (provided by the manufacturer) bent.  That can be easily straightened, but should have been made of of much thicker plate steel.  I'm pretty sure that the bar bent as well, and that'll take a bit more ingenuity, since I no longer have my vise or tube bending equipment.   The bike was protected, but if I'd had the rear side cases on, the impact and pressure on the case would have probably damaged it in some way. 

 

Note that this is a knock off of the Wunderlich design.   It's clear that it's a design failure, and in fact, I wondered how well these would do with no three dimensional support.  The front bars, by comparison, did their job with no damage other than a minor scratch, and they do have three mount points, and connecting bars for support.

 

By comparison, look at Heed's design.  That stabilizing bar forward (1) makes all the difference.  And as I've mentioned before, the way the bar drops down and back away from the bike (2) will probably allow my wife to put her leg over the bars.

Superior design, without a doubt.   (In fact, I just bought a set. 😏  Not in the budget.  What's a budget, anyways? 🙄 Just don't tell the wife. 😨)

 

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One last update on this thread.   The rear, right side crash bar was mostly bent at the mounting bracket, which was pretty easy to fix.   It looks close to matching the right side, thought it may still be 1/2" tweaked.  It clears the luggage.  Other than some superficial scratches, it's pretty much as originally installed. 

 

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I also wanted to update on the problem my 5' tall, short legged wife had with these bars.  A couple of pictures demonstrate the issue.  Though she said that she was fine with it,  I felt that she might be sore after a few hours of riding with that bar pressing on the back of her calf.  Plus, I was uncomfortable with the "default" position, i.e. the bar pushing her foot forward, and potentially off the peg.   I believe taller pillion riders, or those with longer legs, wouldn't experience this as a problem.  Then again, the luggage bags are an inch or two behind the bar, so she can't really sit with her legs much further back anyhow.   I bought the HEED bars, which I believe avoid this problem, and will post the results in a separate review thread.

 

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One last, LAST, FINAL note before I close out this thread, I noted on another rider's post that the Illum bars also seem to be designed to avoid this problem.   The top of the bars appear to be much lower than the Wunderlich  bars (i.e. which the Baione bars copy), though they lack that third mount point and perpendicular bar that the Heed product has.

 

30-800BL, REAR GUARD BARS, 2014-2018 R1200RTW or 2019 and up R1250RT BLACK (30-800BL)

 

 

 

 

 

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FYI. Thought I should add this picture to contrast Heed rear bar pillion fitment for the smaller rider, with the Wunderlich rear bars in the above post.

No impingement of the pillion rider's, leg, and as I described in my separate post on the Heed bars, Heed's bar is better supporter, thicker metal brackets, better bolts, i.e. a better product all the way around.

(I haven't had hands on Heed's front bars, so that review is only for the rear.)

 

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