Bernie Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dennis Andress said: I grew tired of wiring yet another bike for Gerbings and bought a Warm and Safe heated shirt. The shirt works great, but the real gain is the remote controller which needs no wires! The only wiring runs to the shirt, the controller is velcroed to the tank bag. And don’t forget to have spare batteries for the controller. I got caught out at 32F during FART 2022. It’s very disappointing when you turn the dial and it doesn’t get warm. 1
Hosstage Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 Do you still have to run power to the battery to power the shirt? I have an adaptor that plugs into the battery tender plug, so no extra wiring needed, just the one tender plug (most bikes already have them installed, be sure to upgrade the fuse to 15 or 20 amp), plugs into the controller, then from the controller to the liner. Controller could be mounted on the bike, I clip it to my pocket.
Bernie Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 The battery is for the remote controller. The shirt, liner or gloves plug into a 12volt fused outlet, either SAE or Coxial.
Skywagon Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 This is my setup. Gerbing Heated Clothing: The leader in Heated Gear Technology since 1975. Gerbing 12V Heated Jacket Liner Gerbing Heated Clothing: The leader in Heated Gear Technology since 1975. Gerbing 12V Men's Heated Vanguard Gloves Gerbing Heated Clothing: The leader in Heated Gear Technology since 1975. Gerbing Temp Controller Mine look slightly different as they are a bit older. I rarely use the gloves as the heated grips mostly do the trick. Instead of socks I just put a handwarmer in the bottom of my boot...no wires. Sometimes it gets too hot. I also painted one of the knobs on my controller red so I would at a glance know which one was for the jacket and which one is for the gloves. If you go full gear there is a good chance at idle speeds if you have everythng on full blast it will trip the circuit. I usually start up and get going before I turn it on. I also start turning it off when I get off the freeway. I'm not bragging on Gerbings...it's just what I have. I am sure other brands are just as good. I've used mine down to 19 degrees. With the seat on, grips on, liner on, I was fine.
Dennis Andress Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Bernie said: And don’t forget to have spare batteries for the controller. I got caught out at 32F during FART 2022. It’s very disappointing when you turn the dial and it doesn’t get warm. I believe, and I've seen mine do it, the controller in the shirt harness turns on at 20% when it can't find the remote.
Dennis Andress Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Hosstage said: Do you still have to run power to the battery to power the shirt? I have an adaptor that plugs into the battery tender plug, so no extra wiring needed, just the one tender plug (most bikes already have them installed, be sure to upgrade the fuse to 15 or 20 amp), plugs into the controller, then from the controller to the liner. Controller could be mounted on the bike, I clip it to my pocket. No wires on the remote. The shirt side of things. The black chunky thing is the receiver. The gray/red end goes to the shirt. I connect this to my shirt and stuff the excess into a pants pocket.
Bernie Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dennis Andress said: I believe, and I've seen mine do it, the controller in the shirt harness turns on at 20% when it can't find the remote. I have read that in the instructions also, but the 20% didn’t feel very warm that morning. But since I work in boiler rooms in Florida, I am a little cold blooded or spoiled. Lol I have a Warm&Safe dual controller and a Warm&Safe jacket liner with Gerbing gloves, if needed.
Hosstage Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Dennis Andress said: No wires on the remote. The shirt side of things. The black chunky thing is the receiver. The gray/red end goes to the shirt. I connect this to my shirt and stuff the excess into a pants pocket. So the wiring you're talking of eliminating is mounting the remote and getting wires to and from? Still have to plug the shirt in? I see the appeal. Like I said for me, it is about the same, as my controller is not mounted, but is just clipped to my pocket, doesn't get unplugged from the liner when I Ieave the bike, I just unplug the controller from the bike . If I take the liner off, I just put the wired controller into the pocket of the liner. No remote batteries to go dead. 50° Wednesday, going to try to get out if not too sloppy.
Michiganr80rt Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 I have the Warm and Safe gloves. A bit bulky but nice and warm. I am powering them from an unused channel on my ezCAN controller. The controller thinks the gloves are a set of lights and I use the magic wheel on the left bar to set the brightness (glove voltage). I am interested in the Warm and Safe shirt. Then I would want to get a two channel controller to separate glove and shirt voltage. I can see the total adding up... shirt, controller, pant liner, socks... each at $150-200. But extending the Michigan riding year would be worth it.
Hosstage Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 The cost is always a concern, at first. It's what stops so many from crossing over to the warm side. But once you do, you will not miss that money, but the warmth will last for years. I'm sure you hesitated on buying a nice jacket, good gear, good helmet, when you started out riding, but you've had it now for years, and you would never think to not have it. Same goes for heated gear. You will say to yourself, why did I wait? Start with the shirt and controller, you may find pants and socks aren't as much a concern right away. I look at good gear, gloves, jacket, glasses, as safety equipment that is as important as a good helmet and tires. Electric clothes fall in the same category for me, important safety gear. Remember when I said you'd try and talk others into electric clothes? Here I am, again, doing it. Because I think it is that much of a game changer. If my jacket were to quit working tomorrow, I would have a new one the following day, no hesitation.
Hosstage Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 I've gotten this thread way off base, I apologize, get out and ride! And show some pictures, which I'm terrible at doing. 1
Dennis Andress Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Michiganr80rt said: I have the Warm and Safe gloves. A bit bulky but nice and warm. I am powering them from an unused channel on my ezCAN controller. The controller thinks the gloves are a set of lights and I use the magic wheel on the left bar to set the brightness (glove voltage). I am interested in the Warm and Safe shirt. Then I would want to get a two channel controller to separate glove and shirt voltage. I can see the total adding up... shirt, controller, pant liner, socks... each at $150-200. But extending the Michigan riding year would be worth it. Pony up! I bought a Gerbings jacket liner and a controller in maybe... 2004. And I'm just now retiring them.
Dennis Andress Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Hosstage said: So the wiring you're talking of eliminating is mounting the remote and getting wires to and from? Still have to plug the shirt in? I see the appeal. Like I said for me, it is about the same, as my controller is not mounted, but is just clipped to my pocket, doesn't get unplugged from the liner when I Ieave the bike, I just unplug the controller from the bike . If I take the liner off, I just put the wired controller into the pocket of the liner. No remote batteries to go dead. 50° Wednesday, going to try to get out if not too sloppy. But I am cussing at least two fewer corroded "coaxial" connectors. Maybe an old picture will put us back on track. 1 1
Dennis Andress Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 Oh, about Gerbings. The original company sold and drifted away years ago. A couple of the founder's adult kids started a new company in Union, Washington and later moved to Port Orchard. They're not doing all that well.
Hosstage Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Dennis Andress said: Oh, about Gerbings. The original company sold and drifted away years ago. A couple of the founder's adult kids started a new company in Union, Washington and later moved to Port Orchard. They're not doing all that well. That is sad to hear. I knew about Gordon's, they are to be my replacement when my Gerbings finally craps out. Hopefully they will be able to recover soon. I had some contact with Warm and Safe and they are also on their game, a quality product.
Scott9999 Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 Hmm, I've thought about buying heated gear, especially for my wife when (if?) she rides along, too. However, my BMW is the "California" model, i.e. if it's too cold for me, then it's too cold for my bike, too. Seriously, I don't worry about the cold, but anywhere there's "cold" in my area, there's also "moisture", and then "ice". I hit a patch of black ice (two weeks ago, while in my car) on an overpass that had me gliding along on a wonderful "E" ticket ride for about 100 feet, all toboggan, little or no control. It had not even snowed in this area yet. Not surprised, but what I was riding had four wheels and over 2500 lbs of weight under me. I've seen video's of European riders riding with 6' of snow packed up along icy roads, and it wasn't just one rider, there were scores of them, riding like it was a sunny day. (Well, actually, the sun was out, but then, so was the ice.) I worry enough about traction in fair weather, that winter riding would be on my "no" bucket list. I've ridden in temps down to 35F in California, but I was slab riding, and wasn't much concerned about ice there. With decent gear behind a good windscreen, the temps were never a problem. Kudo's to you hearty guys who can do it.
Bernie Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Dennis Andress said: Oh, about Gerbings. The original company sold and drifted away years ago. A couple of the founder's adult kids started a new company in Union, Washington and later moved to Port Orchard. They're not doing all that well. I have been very happy with my Warm&Safe Stuff, they even give you a trade in for your old heated gear and controllers. 1
Rockosmith Posted December 14, 2021 Posted December 14, 2021 21 hours ago, Bernie said: And don’t forget to have spare batteries for the controller. I got caught out at 32F during FART 2022. It’s very disappointing when you turn the dial and it doesn’t get warm. Fresh batteries in the controller every year when the time reverts to Standard from Daylight Saving works well. 2
Redman Posted December 15, 2021 Author Posted December 15, 2021 About 10-12years ago I got 'lectric gloves (wired was what was mostly available then). I figured gloves was the best use of 24 watts on my 80s bikes (Zuki, Honda) with marginal charging systems. But now that have bike with heated grips and better charging sytem, maybe I can reconsider. .
Redman Posted December 15, 2021 Author Posted December 15, 2021 Got out for a ride MOnday too. Another 45degF day. Went for about an hour. Stopped for my typical roadside selfie. 2
M Novack Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 Temps in the mid 40's to 50 here in Chicago last 4 days, mid December !!! 2 hour ride on Sunday and commuted to and from work Mon/Tue. Almost 50 on way home from work last night... 6 1
Michiganr80rt Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 Temp in the 50s, a little wet, but good for a ride. If you look closely at the last photo the temp indicator on the bike says 59.9F! 4
taylor1 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 Beautiful day here in Eastern Carolina Got out for about a 3 hour ride. Always nice when you meet a new friend. 9
wbw6cos Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 Maybe he wanted a ride on a motorcycle that isn't called a hog. Just sayin' 1 2
taylor1 Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 Funny thing William , the owner came out and we chatted a bit. I noticed that the pig had a rear wooden leg , and when I asked him about it he said it was the most intelligent sow he ever owned . Told me it had a masters degree in agriculture . I said that's truly amazing , but what about his wooden leg ? He said that something that smart , you need to eat slowly 1 1 3
Traveler1 Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 Nice sunny day and few tourists, so I decided to check a Golden Gate viewpoint. 9
RandyShields Posted December 17, 2021 Posted December 17, 2021 Another warm, 72 degree mid-December day in the Carolinas. What a great part of the country! Some of our local holiday decorating included for your viewing enjoyment. 10
Dennis Andress Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 It's been awhile. The clock is still an hour ahead from summer. 5
Redman Posted December 20, 2021 Author Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) I really do like all the bike-ride-road-scenryy pics and the participation on this thread. Can y’all tolerated other bikes?? now that salt trucks have been out, am more likely to take out this bike…. here is Saturday evening (30 degF). out on a photo expedition for bike-n-ChristmasLight photo (something wierd I do some Christmas time)..... Tree at city hall was only about 15feet from parking lot. and …. this bike has the power connection that is compatable for my ‘lectric gear. And this old (crash) jacket has harness for the ‘lectric gloves . (opps, maybe should not mention 'lectric gear again.) Shadow 500, not at all “sport touring”. Got it 15 years ago for wife to learn on (and drop a few times). And we all know that a bike for the wife is just an excuse for ANOTHER bike. And stopped downtown. And stopped bye the beach/pier. Edited December 20, 2021 by Redman Add pic 6
wbw6cos Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 We can handle any bike on this thread, so keep 'em comin'! 4
lawnchairboy Posted December 25, 2021 Posted December 25, 2021 65 degrees…rode both bikes. Merry Christmas 4
Dennis Andress Posted December 25, 2021 Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, lawnchairboy said: 65 degrees…rode both bikes. Merry Christmas Merry Christmas!
Rockosmith Posted December 25, 2021 Posted December 25, 2021 70 degrees on Christmas Day. Must ride! 7
Bernie Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Riding around in the morning fog today. Stopped for coffee and refreshments in Middleburg, FL. Nothing scenic but I am out of the house. 😂 4 2
walton66 Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 cleaning up after guests today, wish I was out of the house 1
Bernie Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 4 hours ago, walton66 said: cleaning up after guests today, wish I was out of the house Well, maybe you can add the Cedar Key Lunch on 1/22/2022 to your calendar and escape the Keys before the Hurricane season starts up again.
Bernie Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Pulled out of the driveway in the dark, around 6:40 am. Very foggy, but warm around 58-60F. Rode 275+/- miles, nowhere in particular, mostly just refreshing some skills. I did stop in Middleburg for break and a cup of coffee. (pictures in previous post). Home around 2 pm, sunny with a few clouds and mid 70’s. New tires handle great. Now I just have to figure out where to ride too for my yearend ride and also my annual penguin ride(1/1/2022)???? 1
Dennis Andress Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 My 80 miles can't hold a candle to Bernie but I didn't get out until around 1:00. The RS has around 3500 miles now and is starting to sing a happy song 9
Redman Posted December 27, 2021 Author Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 9:13 AM, Bernie said: Riding around in the morning fog today. Stopped for coffee and refreshments in Middleburg, FL. Nothing scenic but I am out of the house. 😂 . . Does look rather urban/suburban, but to make the pic at least somewhat scenic, you did include a tree in the foreground. Hey, its a pic of your bike and the scene where went for a ride. 1
TSConver Posted December 27, 2021 Posted December 27, 2021 Went to the Sunday meet up in Pittsboro NC yesterday. 2
Kilrush R1150RT Posted December 28, 2021 Posted December 28, 2021 Yesterday a short drive to get used to the new bike to Killimer on the Shannon Estuary. She only just started after I took this picture. Think the battery has had it......still investigating. Bike rides beautifully though 7
ESokoloff Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Yesterday’s commute was interesting......... 2 2
ESokoloff Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Don’t want, don’t need rain…… Sierra snow packs where it’s at. This storm didn’t hit the NorCal mountains so it did us little good. 4-5” of liquid messiness. Fuel for next years fires.
Dennis Andress Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 The Sierra is having a good year! 1 1
Bernie Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 Today's ride was to Baxley, GA for coffee and then just a bunch of small back roads north and then west, before returning to NE Florida. The roads where wet and muddy from last nights thunderstorms, so the bike is a mess, again. But after almost 500 mile ride, I think I had a fun day. Here are a few pictures and a copy of the track. Hickox Road near Nahunta, GA. . Common Ground Coffee and Cafe in Baxley, GA. Ten Mile Middle School 1929-1958, north of Baxley, GA. Mud collection on swing arm at lunch spot in Homerville, GA. The place was so bad, I don't want to mention it's name, so no one by mistake stops there. Here is a screen shot of the tracks for today. 8
Indy Dave Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 Went out with some local riders for lunch. Happy New Year! 7
taylor1 Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 Hey Dave , glad to see you guys didn't stay cooped up 2
Redman Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 8:02 AM, ESokoloff said: Yesterday’s commute was interesting........ . ES, Tell us what sort of industrial operation we are looking at. .
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